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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ali Chen who wrote (67454)	8/3/1999 1:41:00 AM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574343

Re: "I have here 3 questions for you: 1. What is YOUR definition of a "volume product"? 2. What is your criteria for product "existance"? 3. What is your timescale for "foreseeable future"? Let me guess that your answer will be that a "volume product exists" only if the company stock is appreciated 20 times over the next 15 years. Otherwise, in your definition, it is still a "foil". Right?" Now you're being silly. My definition of volume shipment would certainly require product to be available on the open market. As far as the MIA-thlon goes, there isn't any. My criteria for product "existance" requires that the product be available for sale on the open market. The MIA-thlon isn't. My definition of "foreseeable future" is a timescale where one can have a reasonable expectation that an event will take place. In my view, there is no evidence that the MIA-thlon will be available as a product in the next few weeks, and perhaps longer. I may be wrong but that's the way it looks to me. The June vapor-preannouncement was obviously just a desperate attempt to deflect the flack from the Q2 disaster. It could in no way be considered an indication that a product was imminent, and here we are in August and still no K7 is to be found, nor have any systems vendors stepped forward and announced they will sell Athlon systems. What does foreseeable future mean? An example would be Intel's 600MHz PIII. They didn't pre-announce but the rumors were out there. Yet was there any question in anyones mind that systems would be available today? In fact systems were available before Intel announced availability. Can anyone express the same confidence that MIA-thlons will be available next week, or any time this month? Intel ships without announcing and AMD announces without shipping. The foreseeable future is visible for Intel. The foreseeable future for AMD is anybody's guess. There could be Athlon systems available tomorrow for all I know, but I wouldn't count on it. EP