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To: George Acton who wrote (65751)8/3/1999 11:22:00 PM
From: Terry Whitman  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
Excellent points George. Wall St. will need a scapegoat, and daytraders look like a good target.

Most folks don't know, but by DEFINITION, the ultimate rule of daytrading is to NEVER hold a position overnight. So a true daytrader will have a net zero effect on the price of a stock at the end of the day.

This mania has been caused by easy credit, leverage, and mass marketing of greed to the public.

BWDIK,
TW



To: George Acton who wrote (65751)8/4/1999 2:06:00 PM
From: Kerry Phineas  Respond to of 132070
 
George, most of the people I know that trade stocks during the day don't follow the specific rules that are taught at the shops. When people talk about day traders for the most part I don't think they are only talking about SOES bandits and their ilk. The peoople I know keep their positions for a while, but spend most of the day pressing refresh on their internet browser.



To: George Acton who wrote (65751)8/4/1999 9:04:00 PM
From: Kerry Phineas  Respond to of 132070
 
George, I would have responded more earlier, but didn't have time. I thought your post was very cogent and made a number of good points. I agree that there are probably a number of misconceptions about what a "day trader" is. The correct definition would probably be someone who opens and closes their positions each day and ends each session flat, but that definitely isn't the media's definition of day traders. imo the media considers a day trader to be someone who trades stocks during the day; otherwise you wouldn't have the "millions" of day traders. There isn't room for a million people taking advantage of inefficiencies in the market, imo. I never said that the little guy moves the market, but I think it is clear that at least the perception that there is someone out there who will be left holding x or y worthless stock has contributed to some horrendous scams to prop up the market, especially in tech stocks. I think day traders/retirees sitting at home following the market/etc. have been pulled in by these scams and that big time traders have followed them in because they see easy money. The interplay between these has contributed to a situation where fundamentals are not the driving force in the movement of stocks, but instead the perception of what others will think of the most recent news on the stock.

One example of "day trader" friends of mine would be some people I know whose strategy was to buy calls on a particular stock, and when the stock went up to sell the calls they had previously bought and to buy more higher price calls with the money they had just made. If the stock goes down, you simply need to buy more calls in order to make money because it will soon go up. I know a number of people who were using this "fool-proof" strategy, and who were spending all day at work pyramiding up on the latest hot stocks. One of my friends came up with the brilliant strategy and a number of other people followed his lead. While not technically a day trader by your definition, I'm projecting his actions onto other "day traders". Of course this strategy didn't work long term, but in the short term it definitely did well and encouraged others to try the same strategy, which of course had some effect on his stocks going up. In the short term, there was a market inefficiency he took advantage of (not much supply in his stock of choice, and mucho interest) which he and others aggravated by creating more interest in the stock after they had made a lot of money.

The problems today are the direct result of bad policies within our financial institutions and government, easy money, etc.