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To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (67534)	8/4/1999 12:19:00 AM
From: Process Boy	Respond to of 1574544

WATSONYOUTH - <.13um refers to the groundrule generation - not the device length. Intel's published device design for the .18um groundrule generation (Coppermine/Merced etc.) is top notch/world class.(the best I've seen to date) I sincerely doubt that AMDs .14 micron devices (these I believe are for the .18um generation Athlons) will be as good.> Thank you. I share your opinion to a tee W.Y. Mani / Dan3, we are talking device characteristics, not process generation. PB

To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (67534)	8/4/1999 1:13:00 AM
From: Ali Chen	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1574544

YOUTH, <Intel's published device design for the .18um groundrule generation (Coppermine/Merced etc.) is top notch/world class.> Aha, is this the process where Coppermine can't get to 600MHz? Very impressive indeed! <(the best I've seen to date). I sincerely doubt that AMDs .14 micron devices (these I believe are for the .18um generation Athlons) will be as good.> Your sincerity is truly amazing. And have you seen this: techstocks.com You may try to compare: AMD: 0.25u 650MHz 1.7V 113 transistors/mm2; Intel: 0.25u 600MHz 2.0V 68 transistors/mm2; Of course all this is just elmer-foils and no evidences have been promptly reported to Elmer, but it's funny anyway. What makes you think that the AMDs shrink to 0.18 will be any worse?