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To: QwikSand who wrote (18494)8/5/1999 9:55:00 PM
From: FiloF  Respond to of 64865
 
<Therefore I find the old tired argument of "crash" or having to "reboot" to be moot.>

"Old tired argument" -- does anyone see any irony here?



To: QwikSand who wrote (18494)8/5/1999 10:24:00 PM
From: Rusty Johnson  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 64865
 
Microsoft to hackers: Crack this!

But Windows 2000 test server appears to have crashed without any help.

zdnet.com

In an attempt to burnish its tarnished reputation for network security, Microsoft issued an open challenge on Tuesday to the hacking community. But potential testers barely got a chance to attempt to break Window's 2000 security system, as the test server Microsoft offered crashed and stayed down for most of the week.

Thanks to slashdot.org



To: QwikSand who wrote (18494)8/6/1999 9:31:00 AM
From: Stormweaver  Respond to of 64865
 
Qwik glad to here you've got a faster net link. FYI, I have 6 machines (and yes I have an Ultra-1 although it's off most of the time) at home that talk through my Sambar proxy server running on Win98. For a gateway you definitely don't need to run a dedicated box. I find Win98 to be the best gateway machine since it has little if any external points of entry; Linux is the worst since it is easily hacked.

I would be thinking: if only an ISP would hold my file space securely, and provide downloadable Java apps, servlets and web-based applications, then an NC with a powerful CPU and a USB port and a little printer would be all I would ever want. No local hard disk here, no rescue floppies, no tape drives, no IRQ's, no defragmentation, no "FAT'S", no bus slots.

1. Though you may be willing to give up direct control over your data and information to a third party's remote server I seriously doubt the majority of the people would.
2. The PC running Win98 is as simple as it gets; your points are overstated. My contention is if your too comp illiterate to use Win98 chances are you shouldn't even bother. My parents (late 60's) run Win95 quite nicely after about a 1/2 day of instruction; starting with what a mouse is and how it works!

The PC is not something you would design if you started from a clean sheet of paper today...it's a super-suboptimal artifact of past limitations

The current MSFT + PC architecture is the best desktop paradigm available; maybe MAC is a close second. The NC model as a desktop replacement is the absolute opposite and not feasible unless network bandwidth is infinite and we have true web-tone (fault tolerant network spec), appropriate security model is in place and applications are available. It's at least two to three years away to making any impact on MSFT desktop sales.

Cheers
James