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To: Mark Bartlett who wrote (38436)	8/5/1999 10:13:00 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116764

At least with gold, I have something real/physical with which I can protect myself with - not "confidence" or "military or political will/might" - none of which are likely to do me much But Mark.. that's just the point. Most people who own gold stocks and gold options might as well own Fiat paper. Because in the kind of world crisis where gold might actually have value, we can hardly believe that paper claims upon gold will be honored. Without a rule of law, only physical barter goods and maybe physical gold will have any value. We should never forget that gold or any perceived currency are nothing more than a proxy for barter. The natives of Yak Island used those big stone wheels for currency. In ancient times a man's wealth was judged by the size of his herds, and not by how much gold he had. Just something to think about... no need to respond. Regards, Ron

To: Mark Bartlett who wrote (38436)	8/6/1999 3:17:00 AM
From: d:oug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116764

anyone, click Next if to make a pompous ass of myself will offend you Mark, I left a lot of clues on this thread pointing to why Ron Reece remains firmly attached to his views on the gold standard, as to why many of us gold bugs, GATA supporters and just pro gold as a good thing for the central governments to store as a reserve, can not budge or explain what is so simple to see, to Ron Reece. I was hoping that another threader here would spill the beans about Ron, but no, didn't happen and I'am worried that if left too long uncorrected, that Ron may reach a point of no return and forever to hold and preach the wrong ways of paper money. In a place not so far away, not so long ago Ron realized that his intellect possessed a great intellectual ability that using his intelligence he could intellectualize with the best of them and thusly be judged as an extra intelligent person but there was a problem Ron needed to carry a weight on his shoulders one that really did not need to carried was not required to obtain that which was not needed but Ron felt the presents of that which was not there so Ron, fighting himself against others needed the control of thoughts to present to others that which is ignored by choice by others and if forced on, will be ignoried and gold is a physical object that which will control thru its physical existence, paper money a threat to Ron Ron needing thoughts to be the controlling mechanism Ron's thoughts, so that he can present his own, to control paper money gold must not be used, only the thoughts and wims and desires of men like Ron doug