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To: d:oug who wrote (3755)8/7/1999 8:20:00 PM
From: d:oug  Respond to of 4066
 
not nice to kick one falling down, but in this case....

in this case I'll make an exception
and each time I reread this e-mail from Bill, it feels good
knowing that those who abused their power and our trust
that they are on the path to hell
they will burn and hurt
as they should
no forgiveness from me
they knew of their sins before doing them
to them the only thing done wrong was getting caught

they won most of the battles
but are now losing the war
some will escape
some innocents will suffer
will USA politicians punish those who done wrong
and will they help those innocents

Subj: Midas on Hannibal
Date: 8/6/99
From: lepatron@lemetropolecafe.com
To: dougak

...what is it that the "Hannibals" are so afraid of ?

Gold was due to come in $2 higher this A. M. and ... it appears on queue,
"Hannibal Lechter" and Co. came out bombing the gold market; Goldman Sachs,
Deutsche Bank, Chase Bank and Morgan Stanley - bing bang boom!

The mantra of "no gold excitement" was chanted again all day by these
bullion dealers and it worked as gold closed only a dime higher. The volume
on Comex was heavy so it took a significant effort by this "Goon Squad"
to hold the price of gold down....

"Hannibal" you are running out of gold, excuses and time.
The world is now beginning to focus on your activities.
The government (CFTC) is finally honing in on you in some way.

It is becoming so clear to so many that whenever gold picks its head up,
Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, Chase, etc. will always be there to make
sure the gold never rallies very much or creates any exciting press...

But, you have a problem now, "Hannibal". GATA is telling the world what you
are doing and the world is watching you. The word is spreading about your
price capping, collusive activities. You are much too obvious at this stage
of the game.

You and "officialdom" must be really scared to be that concerned about a
lousy $2 to $3 gold price rally. Is GATA correct that the BOE sale was
the last supply card you could play and you are afraid that if gold attracts
any attention at all, you will not be able to stop a good gold price rally
this time? Are you afraid of hedge funds like "Tiger" blowing up because they
are short so much gold that they could never cover that much on a serious gold
rally? Are you afraid the bullion banks will have big problems covering thousands
of tonnes of short gold positions when mine supply is only around 2529 tonnes?
Are you afraid that you might have to call on the U.S. Treasury to bail you out
with Fort Knox gold because of your nefarious trading...

Which one is it Hannibal? Or is it all of them? You must be awfully petrified
and desperate to have to resort to selling like you did today ( and with a
spotlight on your trading activities to boot)...

GATA was mocked by the bullion dealer camp for alluding that a collusion like
that would ever occur. Well, lo and behold, look what just happened to cross
my desk today regarding Treasury Secretary Summers.

TOKYO, Aug 4 (Reuters) - How blunt does it get when top Japanese and U.S.
financial officials go into a huddle over money matters?

"Eisuke, the world is going to hell, we've got to cooperate."

According to Japan's then-top financial diplomat, is what Lawrence Summers,
then-U.S. deputy Treasury secretary, said in a memo to him last September...

If our Treasury went to Japanese officials with "we've got to cooperate",
it should be very easy to comprehend and understand that they also went to
Tony Blair and said "we've got to cooperate." Capiche!

Yes, it would seem our Treasury has a consistent modus operundi that has to
do with "cooperation"(collusion). GATA has alerted Senator Phil Gramm,
Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, about this "tendency".

My guess is that the reason Hannibal is so blatant about what he is doing
is that his camp is in trouble and soon they are going to lose control of
their manipulation. If the credit bubble is bursting and the stock market
bubble is bursting, it will be every man for himself...

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All the best, Bill Murphy, Le Patron



To: d:oug who wrote (3755)8/7/1999 8:26:00 PM
From: d:oug  Respond to of 4066
 
LePatron(dougak)@LeMetropoleCafe.com - More on Tiger - Date: 8/7/99

David Tice has served commentary at the Hemingway Table entitled,
"The Not Insignificant Possibility of a Derivative Accident".

"financial system increasingly on the brink"
"astounding-$50 trillion of interest derivatives"
"are Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac properly hedged?"
"will the flood insurance be useless?"
"the computer assumes there will be liquidity"
"another Russian-style derivative collapse?"

The following article was in the Drudge Report. We have
had much feedback on our Tiger "Bulletin". Much of
it was to say that Tiger was OK. Maybe, but my
information came from several great sources.
The one that convinced me to put that bulletin out
has given me many other tips over the past 5 months.
Everyone has panned out including ...

The Cafe is not out to spread rumors that we do not
believe to be true and I try and do my homework as best
as I can...

Our source told us that the big redemption we spoke of"was coming",
and therefore, not generally known yet. We shall see.

Drudge Report:

MARKETS FEAR HEDGE FUND COLLAPSE MAY BE LOOMING

CONCERN IS growing in the financial markets that a
major hedge fund is in difficulty, prompting fears of
a repeat of last year's crisis when the Federal
Reserve in the US had to mount a $3.5bn bail-out of
Long- Term Capital Management (LTCM) in order to stave
off a global financial collapse.

The market for swaps, complex interest-rate derivatives
which are widely used by hedge funds and the proprietary
trading desks of the big investment banks to fund their
high-risk trading strategies is, say traders, showing
the same signs of distress that was seen after the
Russian bond default last August.

This has taken the form of a widening of credit
spreads - the interest rate differential - indicative
of concerns within the market of a major default.
Spreads on 10-year swaps have widened on both sides
of the Atlantic from the early 80s (0.8 per cent) to
110 over the past few weeks. Over the past few days
the widening has accelerated.

The UK gilts swaps market is one of the most liquid
in the world and a favourite haunt of big hedge
fund players.

Tiger, the $12bn hedge fund run by New York-based
financier Julian Robertson, yesterday dismissed
as "rubbish" reports that Goldman Sachs, and Chase
had cut its credit lines. Sources close to LTCM have
been similarly dismissive of reports that it too was
again in difficulty, less than a year after being
rescued by a consortium of 13 banks including
Barclays, Deutsche and Merrill Lynch.

Other accounts have referred to a big US or Swiss
bank having taken a big hit.

Worries about big trading losses have been exacerbated
by a number of large trades in both the equity and
swaps market yesterday and on Thursday, indicative
of an unwinding of big market positions. Goldman
Sachs was reported to have unwound a big swaption
(combined swap and option) position, and was also
rumoured to have lost pounds 200m on European options.

There was talk, too, that the Fed was holding back
on raising short- term interest rates to keep one
of the big securities houses afloat.

The problems in the swaps market appear to have
initially been caused by concern about the pile-up
of corporate issues ahead of the fourth-quarter
when demand is expected to dry up because of Y2K
fears. However, over the last few days talk that
a major institution is in difficulty has come to the fore.

Some of the big investment banks yesterday admitted
privately to sustaining small losses over the past
few days but nothing that would result in a
material profits hit let alone a default.

Adrian Davis, swaps analyst at ABN-Amro, said
yesterday: "Over the past few months spreads
have been widening out because of concern at
oversupply in the bond market. However, in the
last three or four days they have really blown
because of concerns about the viability of a
financial institution."

Said another trader: "The markets are very strained.
They are very like they were last year. In these
kind of markets people will have lost money."

Although hedge funds and Western banks lost up to
$40bn when the Russians refused to honour their
GKO bonds, the real problem that brought LTCM to
the brink of collapse was the widening of credit
spreads in the the swaps and high-yielding bond
markets which blew its strategy of buying
high-yielding bonds in anticipation of yields
falling to bits.

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All the best, Bill Murphy, Le Patron



To: d:oug who wrote (3755)8/7/1999 8:30:00 PM
From: d:oug  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4066
 
Le Metropole Cafe, a clarification

From: LePatron@LeMetropoleCafe.com
To: dougak, Date: 8/7/99
Subjects:
(1) The Street.com-Redemption Rumors: Another Bustle in ...
(2) Another story on Tiger and a clarification...

The "Big Boys" know that any financial entity or any
individual that is under financial pressure, sells what
they can first - for liquidity purposes and just to
satisfy the counterparties.

The real problems start with the illiquid portions of the
portfolio. They go last.

The "last man in" investors are stuck with those positions.
From experience, The "Big Boys" know what happens to
the investors that stick it out to the last. It is
not a pretty sight.

When "The Cafe" came out with that 6 billion
redemption number that is "coming", it was with that
thought in mind. We did not mean to infer that our
sources said it would "only" be a "single" redemption.

Take it away: The Street.com

Redemption Rumors: Another Bustle in Julian Robertson's Hedgerow
By Aaron L. Task and Erin Arvedlund
Staff Reporters
8/6/99 6:54 PM ET

The rumor mill continued to churn today, with
market players speculating Julian Robertson's Tiger
Management is facing up to $6 billion in redemptions.
Some credit-market players suggested yesterday's
shenanigans in the swap market were the result of the
fund having to raise cash in a hurry. Separate rumors
of a staff exodus at the macro-style hedge fund were
also circulating.

A $6 billion redemption would cut Tiger's asset base
off at the knees. The New York-based hedge fund has assets
totaling anywhere from $10 billion to $12 billion, according
to Bruce Ruehl with Tremont Advisors, a fund of funds
in Rye, N.Y, and an investor in Tiger. However, a large
portion of the hedge fund's capital is subject to l
ock-up agreements, Ruehl said, suggesting a redemption
of that size is highly unlikely, if not impossible.

As for the issue of Tiger's staff, employees are
"typically given two-year contracts when they start
at $1.5 million a year," according to one hedge fund
manager who requested anonymity. "After two years they
are paid based on performance through a pool, which
vests over five years. What I heard was, in light of
the fund's recent performance, employees up to that
first two-year mark are bolting."

Robertson has done some sort of flip-flop on divvying
up money to managers, but there is no mass staff
exodus, according to an investor.

Alone and an Easy Target
Because of its size, Tiger is easy prey for the
rumor mill, several hedge fund traders said as they
dismissed today's talk. Robertson reportedly called
the redemption rumors "obscene," according to the
aforementioned hedge fund manager, citing contacts at Tiger.

However, there are legitimate concerns. Despite
what has been a legendary track record , Robertson
has had a tougher go of it of late. Since the s
tart of July 1998, Tiger is down 40%,
according to Tremont estimates.

"They haven't mounted much of a comeback over
that time," Ruehl said. "But this is a rough year
for macro funds, a unique year, even though the
yen-dollar trade came back. It likely is not as
big a percentage of every macro hedge fund's
portfolio. And in a month like July, some of
Tiger's equity positions went against them,"
including US Airways (U:NYSE) and Waste Management (WMI:NYSE).

The hedge fund source agreed that $6 billion in
redemptions was hard to fathom, "but that doesn't
mean they're not in a bunch of bad trades."

The source noted Robertson "talked up" his US
Airways earlier in the week. "All of a sudden,
now the airline company has to enhance shareholder
value. Why? Because [he's] losing on all his other trades."

In addition to Waste Management and US Airways, the
source said Tiger's performance has also been battered
by big holdings in Countrywide Credit (CCR:NYSE),
Providian (PVN:NYSE) and Capital One Financial
(COF:NYSE). Each is down considerably from
its 52-week high. (See chart.)

Paper Tiger
Key Tiger holdings show a declining trend

Source: Big Charts

Additionally, an individual investor in Tiger said
he'd received word from the firm that Tiger was
closing to new investors -- i.e., that the hedge
fund did not accept any new money in July and
won't do so in August either. "The idea, I guess,
goes something like this: They don't want to
disappoint people who might put their money in
this year," said the investor, who asked not
to be identified.

Nevertheless, "this does not imperil the survival
of Tiger," Ruehl said.

Meanwhile, another hedge fund manager said Tiger's
woes -- rumored or actual -- portend poorly for
the broader market.

"Tiger's been having trouble with both investors
and staff for a while now, so this is nothing new,"
said Aron Thompson, president of Infinity
Investments near Seattle. "However, what may have
happened is that things got worse for him with the
nosedive in markets. But this isn't simply a Tiger
problem: It will be a hedge fund industry problem,
and probably sooner rather than later. They aren't
making enough money (or in some cases, are losing
too much money) to justify that they exist. When
you take out 1% to 2% per annum for management
and 20% of profits, you'd better be good -- you'd
better be better than good."

Thompson further speculated that hedge funds may
"deflate" before the market does. But lately, it's
looked like a classic chicken-and-egg conundrum.

A Tiger spokesman was not immediately available to comment.

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