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To: E who wrote (49843)	8/7/1999 11:17:00 PM
From: Father Terrence	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Please read Neo's excellent post on the topic: Message 10865512

To: E who wrote (49843)	8/7/1999 11:31:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

>the results are unimaginably disastrous.< Imo they are imaginably disastrous. Sea level up an easy ten meters - coastal cities gone. Either by abandonment or by storms breaching increasingly precarious seawalls. Climate patterns remodeled - breadboxes become deserts. Some deserts become breadboxes? Tundra becomes grassland. "Banner" species" like apes and pandas gone. Coyotes and crows have a field day. Mass dislocations of humans result - and this after serious economic collapse. People die of poverty, famine. Farming becomes a big deal again! Thirst! Water will be the great commodity, and brushfire wars will be fought with machetes and atom bombs. The period 1900-2050 becomes remembered as a golden age like the Roman Apogee two millennia prior. Armstrong becomes legend like Columbus. While civilization probably won't gutter and die - it'll certainly be slowed. It'll be another three hundred years before low Earth orbit becomes interesting again. I expect computers to stay with us - at least with the aristocracy. There will be such. In the meantime - expect to see violently reactionary and conformist religious/Luddite theocracies become a major form of government.

To: E who wrote (49843)	8/8/1999 10:48:00 AM
From: James R. Barrett	Respond to of 108807

The debate is over. YOU LOSE..............again. exchange2000.com

To: E who wrote (49843)	8/8/1999 10:56:00 PM
From: Grainne	Respond to of 108807

<Thanks, Christine, for carrying the burden of this argument.> What a wonderful post you wrote, E, so logical. I totally agree with it, especially because whether we debate climate models all day and all night, we can see whenever we read newspapers or watch the television news, that something horrible is happening all around us. It is illogical not to try to do something about it. I especially do not understand how the people like Terrence, who as you say have been duped by the paid shills (or ARE the paid shills), can stand to look at themselves in the mirror after making the snide and insulting little posts that they think are clever, but show them for their real selves. I think you might enjoy the Harper's Magazine piece I just posted. In any event, I will try to keep up the struggle. I appreciate your efforts as well, as your posts are always so rational. Thanks!