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To: Tony Viola who wrote (86696)	8/8/1999 11:36:00 PM
From: L. Adam Latham	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Tony: Re: I wonder what ever happened to that ugly power supply it required? Also from the AMD thread: www2.techstocks.com "This guy, gecs.com A tier 3 vendor, is offering this system on eBay: ================================================== THE ATHLON AMD K7 CPU'S HAVE ARRIVED. FEEL THE POWER OF THE ATHLON K7/650 CPU CONTAINING 128K L1 CACHE, AND 512K L2 CACHE, 200MHZ BUS, AND MULTI-PROCESSING CAPABILITIES. THIS COMPUTER WILL KICK BUTT!!! G.E.C.S. SELLS OVER 5000 PC'S PER YEAR TO OVER 25 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES! Athlon K7/650 CPU w/128K Level 1 and w/512K Level 2 Cache Floating Point Unit is 46% faster than the Intel Pentium III CPU's! 200Mhz mainboard bus speed Microstar Slot A mainboard w/AGP v4.0 and UDMA/66 support. HUGE Slot A Ball bearing heatsink/cooling fan. High Speed I/O Controller Built On (4 IDE, 2 serial, 1 parallel) 1.44MB floppy drive DVD-3 5X DVD, 32X CDROM drive DVD-ROM high performance DVD software three 168pin DIMM sockets ATX Form Factor 2 PS/2 Ports (1 mouse and 1 keyboard) 2 Universal Serial Bus Ports Mid Tower Case with 250watt power supply, ATX Format 128MB SDRAM DIMM 8ns 3.3v PC100 Diamond Viper V770 32MB AGP video card 4 speaker stereo surround sound support 450watt speakers P.M.P.O. with subwoofer Motorola PCI 56K modem voice/data/fax internal v.90 17.2GB UDMA/66 5400RPM Hard Drive 104 keys Windows 95 Multimedia keyboard Logitech Firstmouse+ PS/2 2 button Wheel Scroll mouse High end Lexan Mouse Pad Over 650MB of high quality software pre-installed! assembled, tested, and burnt in properly packaged for shipping purposes Windows 98 installed for testing and system verification only, then removed Lotus Smartsuite Millenium Edition v9.0 on CD FULL VERSION 2 years labor/1 years parts warranty Shipping done UPS 5 day insured"

To: Tony Viola who wrote (86696)	8/9/1999 12:14:00 AM
From: kapkan4u	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

<Tony: I see from an article posted on the AMD thread that Athlon has 60 errata that require workarounds, and that it requires "a relatively complex and expensive six-layer motherboard..." > Some creative quoting Mr. FUD/RAS. Please allow me to correct the record: <ZDnet: The AMD Athlon chip set, Peng said, has more than 60 errata, each one requiring a workaround. Errata, when not addressed, can sometimes cause problems with the operation of a PC. Athlon also requires a relatively complex and expensive six-layer motherboard> It's Athlon chip set. Big difference. Kap

To: Tony Viola who wrote (86696)	8/9/1999 12:23:00 AM
From: Cirruslvr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Tony - RE: "Intel ships somewhere around 20,000,000 CPU chips per quarter. A few tens of thousands of a competitor chip is nothing." Then why in the world is Intel dropping PIII prices to compete with the Athlon??? "I see from an article posted on the AMD thread that Athlon has 60 errata that require workarounds, and that it requires "a relatively complex and expensive six-layer motherboard..." They call that ready for production?" Elmer says all processors have erratas, and that it is almost impossible to design a processor without one. He said that after one was found in the Xeon and PIII SMP systems.