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To: Charles R who wrote (68253)8/10/1999 12:52:00 AM
From: Process Boy  Respond to of 1578927
 
Charles - <Waiting for the process guys to comment......>

OK, I'll bite.

Of course there is big potential upside on .18 vs. .25. Intel is saying that =>1GHz is in the cards for .18 Al process. But that doesn't assure a massive jump out of the box by any means. It takes time and Si to scale transistors. I am curious myself what the performance jump will be. If they do get a big jump on .18 Al out of the box, then kudos to their development team.

PB



To: Charles R who wrote (68253)8/10/1999 1:13:00 AM
From: grok  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1578927
 
RE: <As I mentioned in an earlier post, I have come to precisely the opposite conclusion. [About performance increase from 0.25u to 0.18u] Waiting for the process guys to comment...... Chuck>

First order transistor performance is porportional to (Vin-Vt)*W/(Tox*Leff) if I remember correctly. At 1.6V I expect that Tox is already at or very near 0.18u value. If VCC at 0.18u is 1.5V then Vin-Vt is almost unchanged. Leff may come down a little but not much because the transistors were already so advanced at 0.25u. But W comes down to 0.18/0.25 = 0.72 which is the biggest change and it is in the numerator.

Process guys??????????