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To: Liatris Spicata who wrote (9073)	8/10/1999 9:08:00 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9980

Yeah, rummaging through peoples electronic mail and infiltrating nuclear weapons labs are both "spying". Their net effect can be disastrously different. What makes you think that the Russians, French, Israelis, Taiwanese, etc. have not infiltrated our weapons labs? You may be sure that they are trying, just as we are trying to infiltrate theirs. Should we break off normal relations with all of them? I don't think anybody is "giving away secrets" to anyone, unless one gets hysterical about it. They slip through our defenses sometimes, we slip through theirs sometimes. When it happens we plug the holes and assess the damage, as they would. No point in talking about breaking off normal relations with them. Remember that China developed nuclear weapons during a time when we did not have normal relations with them.

To: Liatris Spicata who wrote (9073)	8/10/1999 9:36:00 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9980

Why are you trying to deflect attention from a very serious security issue?? Because I deal in the real world. A world where nations have been holding a nuclear knife to each other's throats for decades. Where US nuclear technology fell into the hands of the Russians through espionage, and the world didn't suddenly come to a screeching halt (and that was at a time where it was nowhere clear that we possessed such a decisive advantage). And Larry... what bothers me is that you and so many others are so caught up with the term "neutron bomb" thinking it compares to a multi-stage cobalt device rumoured to have been developed as a "doomsday" device during the '50s by both sides. Do you even understand what a "neutron bomb" is or what its relative yield equivalent in tons of TNT?? Hint: It's officially known as an Enhanced Radiation Device and they were designed to fit in the Lance Missile and 8 inch artillery shells. Even bigger hint: Look up W-79, W-82, and pay attention to dialable yields. So they stole our secrets... What exactly should you recommend we do about it? Nuke 'em?? Just how long did you think we'd be able to keep them secret?? I think we did pretty damn good to keep them as long as we did. So while yes, our lack of proactive security measures and launching a proper counter-intelligence investigation of Wen Ho Lee years ago is an obvious screw-up on our part, and doesn't excuse the espionage by the Chines, there is little that can be done know except adjust to the knew reality of Chinese weapons potentially as capable as our own. But they are not nearly as numerous as our weapons stock pile so I wouldn't spend a lot of sleepless nights worrying about it. After all, I doubt they'll be willing to give 'em back.... :0) Btw, those Cobra Ball missions we flew near or over the USSR were not approved by the Russkies. That's quite likely why KAL 007 was shot down. They mistook it for an RC-135 Cobra Ball ELINT spying mission. We didn't ever acknowledge there was a US spyplane operating off the Soviet coast when that plane was shot down. That didn't come for several months, if I recall. Reality is what we wake up with every day. If the Chinese have our weapons secrets, then we adjust our policies accordingly in order to prevent the possibility of a nuclear conflict from occuring between us. The key is how to avoid a conflict entirely, not who has what kind or how many weapons. Regards, Ron