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To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (22651)8/11/1999 12:41:00 AM
From: Challo Jeregy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 99985
 
Thanks Lee.

Agree with you.

I am seeing some big caps beginning to roll over. I hope we have a nice bounce that last a few days. But I also think we will be going down more.

Still, looking at the p&f support on dj-30, after strong support at 10,500, next support levels at 10,000 and 9600 are a ways down.

Take cae.



To: Lee Lichterman III who wrote (22651)8/11/1999 8:11:00 AM
From: donald sew  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 99985
 
Lee,

>>>> As for the market. I see a lot of talk tonight about this is the bottom. While the recovery in the indexes and internets was impressive, looking at the stocks I track, I saw a lack of any real volume and I am reading a lot about buying this dip already. <<<<<

Posted the following on the Kahuna thread which:

I just went thru 18 years of data on the NYSE, to see if there is anything statistically viable concerning "W" shaped bottoms. For corrections of 7% or greater for that time period most of them had either a "W" shaped bottom or some sort of a retest of the LOWs before rebounding strongly. Heres the DATA, YES means "W" shape/other retest of lows:

SEP 98 - YES
OCT 97 - HIGHER LOW
APR 97 - LOWER LOW
JUL 96 - YES
NOV 94 - YES
APR 94 - YES
APR 92 - YES
SEP 90 - YES
DEC 89 - YES
APR 88 - YES
OCT 87 - YES
MAR 87 - YES
JUL 86 - YES
SEP 85 - YES
JUN 84 - YES
JUL 82 - "V SHAPE"
MAR 82 - YES
JAN 82 - YES
SEP 81 - "V SHAPE"

I eyeballed the charts so I may have missed on a few. Also to be really statistically viable I should have checked 32 of them not 20, but my eyes were getting crossed. ggggggggggggg

So of the 20 times that there was a 7% correction or greater 16 of them formed either a "W" bottom or some sort of a retest of the LOWs.
Also, only 2 of the 20 had "V" shapes.

For this specific discussion, lets say it is a correction in a BULL market and nothing worse. Based on the above data the is only a 1 in 10 chance that the rebound will take a "V" shape, and 9 out of 10 chance that some sort of subsequent dip will occur before the rebound is in full force.

My point is that it may be more beneficial to wait for some sort of a retest/subsequent dip than to go bullish at this time. Yes there is a chance that it may take a "V" shape but the chances are slim. Also keep im mind that for this discussion Im working with the assumption that the market did bottom, which is still questionable, so the odds are against those going long right now. Im not talking about scalping but longer term positons. Again, I am not saying that a
"V" shape rebound cant happen, just that the odds are very slim.

seeya