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To: Process Boy who wrote (68495)	8/11/1999 4:32:00 AM
From: kash johal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1579127

PB, Re: K7 mobiles I think the KIII will ne AMD's mobile solution. I doubt if you will see K7 mobiles soon. Even at 0.18/Cu I can't see more than a 2x power reduction. Say 25 watts for a 500-600 K7. Thats still way off. Either AMD will have to adopt Frequency alteration like Geyserville or forget about K7 mobiles. Fortunately for AMD geyserville is delayed till Q1-Q2 2000. regards, Kash

To: Process Boy who wrote (68495)	8/11/1999 11:24:00 AM
From: Cirruslvr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1579127

PB - RE: "I know Coppermine is going to kick K6x ass in Mobile. And when Geyserville finally comes, this would seemingly leave AMD in a lurch for this market segment? All IMHO." Unless Cuontimemine has core enhancements, it is just Dixon with SSE. I don't know if Intel will finally move to a 100MHz bus (like AMD has been at for a long time this year), but I would expect it if they are going to reach 600MHz and above with this chip. And next year it will have that extra technology. But don't count out the K6-III's performance yet. Look at this page - amd.com The only advantage the AMD system has is the 1024K L3 cache vs. the usual 512K. The extra 512K only adds a 2% improvement. Yes, the K6-III isn't in many notebooks right now, but that may be because it uses much more power than the Intel-equivalent, and in the high-end notebook arena, cost isn't an issue as much as it is with K6-2 notebooks. Performance-wise, mobile Cuontimemine should run neck-and-neck with the K6-III at the same MHz because FPU isn't too relevant in notebooks. The advantage Intel will have is the same one they have had against the desktop K6-X in the past. MHz. Am I completely missing something here? We should wait and see what AMD can do with the .18 mobile K6-III before we rule Cuontimemine as able to kick its ass.

To: Process Boy who wrote (68495)	8/11/1999 12:27:00 PM
From: Charles R	Respond to of 1579127

PB, <Understanding that Geyserville is not here yet but sticking my neck out anyway: How in the heck is AMD going to get this thing into a Mobile package? I know Coppermine is going to kick K6x ass in Mobile. And when Geyserville finally comes, this would seemingly leave AMD in a lurch for this market segment? All IMHO> How about shipping 180nm K7s without cache for the mobile segment? Low speed bins for the consumer segment and high speed bins for the Commercial segment? Chuck