SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Charles R who wrote (68633)8/12/1999 3:47:00 PM
From: Jim McMannis  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573004
 
RE:"K6 PCOAC"...
Haven't heard that before.
Very interesting.

Jim



To: Charles R who wrote (68633)8/12/1999 3:51:00 PM
From: Yougang Xiao  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573004
 
Gary Bixler Interview:

He's the Athlon marketing guy. Major points:

1. Confirmed that AMD has an integrated MPU based on K6.

2. 30% market share in 2001 is on conservative side.

idgnet.com
AMD's Athlon: Will
lightning strike twice?
by Clare Haney, IDG News Service\Hong Kong Bureau
August 12, 1999

Once again, the microprocessor race is
Advanced Micro Devices' to lose.

On Monday, AMD announced its new Athlon
family of processors, including one 650MHz
version that the company says is the
fastest x86-type processor on the market.

AMD is hoping that the Athlon will boost the
company out of its current position as a
seller of cheap PC chips to a supplier of
processors for higher-end workstations and
servers. In short, AMD has to deliver on its
promise that the Athlon can compete with
the best processors chip giant Intel Corp.
has to offer.

The bold claims marking the Athlon's launch
are reminiscent of those AMD made a couple
of years ago when the company announced
its K6 family in a bid to re-establish itself in
the PC processor market. Although the K6-2
and K6-III processors were well received,
their rollout has been consistently plagued
by manufacturing and design problems.

With the Athlon, AMD hopes to reassure its
partners and customers that history isn't
going to repeat itself.

IDG News Service sat down yesterday with
Gary Bixler, Athlon marketing manager at
AMD's Computation Products Group. Based in
Austin, Texas, Bixler talked about the
challenges facing AMD and its new chip. He
was in Hong Kong for the local launch of
Athlon.

IDGNS: How can you avoid the kind of
manufacturing problems you had with K6 as
you bring Athlon to market? How can you
convince customers that such problems
won't arise again?

Gary Bixler (GB): We'll prove it in the
marketplace over a long time. We expect
people to be skeptical and that we'll keep
getting questions like these until we can
demonstrate our ability to deliver Athlon on
a regular basis in the right quantities.

Athlon is a brand-new design for us, it has
no relationship to the K6 design. K6, which
came from our NexGen acquisition, had a
very different design goal. It was about how
much performance we could get at a given
frequency, which made it difficult for us to
scale to higher frequencies and was what
caused us (manufacturing) yield difficulties.

Our number one design goal with Athlon is
scaling to very high frequencies. Our design
team is led by the key designer behind the
Alpha chip, the fastest chip in the world, so
that's the mind set of our development
team.

IDGNS: What's involved in the switch to
0.18-micron manufacturing and how
important is it to Athlon?

GB: 0.18-micron manufacturing is going to
be a very key part of our Athlon strategy
and will help us maintain our frequency
advantage. At the moment we're using
enhanced quarter micron technology to build
Athlon which is very easy to transition to
0.18-micron manufacturing since it already
contains the key features.

We are doing all Athlon production in our
Austin, Texas fabrication plant Fab 25. In
the fourth quarter of this year, we'll move to
a 0.18-micron aluminium process. In early
2000, we'll be using an 0.18-micron copper
process at our Dresden (Germany) plant
known as Fab 30. The copper process gives
us the ability to build more efficient silicon
and transistors to operate at higher speeds.
We'll have a 700MHz Athlon in the fourth
quarter of this year and 1GHz Athlon
sometime in 2000.

IDGNS: What's the future of your K6 brand?
There was talk that the Athlon sub-branding
campaign, which will yield four different
brands for the chip, will get into full swing
when the K6-2 and K6-III reach the end of
their life cycles. When do you expect that
to be?

GB: We will continue K6 where the chip is
strong. In the near term, there will be more
new K6s with new speeds and the chip will
continue this year and all through 2000.

The Athlon Professional and Ultra brands will
be introduced when customers are ready,
they're not related to the K6-2 or K6-III. life
cycles. We will launch Athlon first in
high-performance desktops. The Athlon
core, K7, will migrate down into the value
space where we may use the Athlon Select
brand or K7 or something else. It's not clear
what the future names will be.

IDGNS: How long is AMD likely to
manufacture its own chipsets for Athlon?

GB: We designed and branded chipsets for
Athlon because we weren't going to rely on
our partners because that could limit our
time to market. We have to control our own
destiny. We are enabling our partners like
Via [Technologies] and ALi [Acer
Laboratories Inc.] to deliver optimized
chipsets for the high-volume market.

We're very open with sharing our technology
with our partners. If their chipsets have the
same capabilities as our own, then we'll step
aside if we can be sure about their delivery.

IDGNS: What threat will Via pose to AMD in
the PC chips arena now that it is acquiring
Cyrix and IDT technologies? Is your
relationship with Via likely to change?

GB: The products they're acquiring aren't
taking us on head-on today and never have.
Via's really brought integration technology
which is suitable for a very specific part of
the market below entry level -- the
appliance market.

We've had very high level meetings with Via
recently and they're very committed to
continuing our current relationship where
they optimize the infrastructure for our
products. We've made a lot of money
together, it's silly to think that they'd walk
away from a very lucrative business. Via will
absolutely continue to be a very key
partner. If we end up competing, so be it.
We also have an integrated processor
business with K6 in Austin.

IDGNS: Do you think that Via's purchases
are more to do with gaining access to
patented technology?

GB: That very well may be the case. So
what Via's purchasing are the rights to build
things without Intel harassment.

IDGNS: What about AMD's estimates that
the company will have 30 percent of the
world's total x86 processor market including
desktop, server and mobile chips by 2001?

GB: Look at the numbers, it's simple math.
We have 15.5 percent of the worldwide
market now with our Fab 25. Our Fab 30 in
Dresden doubles our capacity. I think 30
percent is a little too conservative.

IDGNS: Any idea when AMD will appoint a
replacement to Atiq Raza, company
president, chief technical officer and chief
operating officer, who suddenly resigned last
month?

GB: No comment. Atiq was a very important
part of the company and played a very
important role in the development of Athlon.
Our Athlon road map and development is
continuing to go on and our performance has
not been impacted by Atiq leaving. Everyone
can be replaced.

AMD, based in Sunnyvale, Calif., can be
reached at +1-800-538-8450 or at



To: Charles R who wrote (68633)8/12/1999 3:53:00 PM
From: Cirruslvr  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573004
 
Chuck - RE: "All the data I have suggest that Intel is about to go full blast supporting PC133/200/266 but they have lost some valuable time with their aggressive push of RDRAM."

There was an article the other day which said Intel may support PC133 in Camino when it comes out. But a few weeks earlier, there was an article where an Intel rep said Intel may be able to add PC133 support in their chipsets by the beginning of next year. Do you know if Intel is going to support PC133 in Camino initially through one of those MTHs?

"From what I gather K6 PCOAC will support PC133/200/266."

K6 PCOAC?

"And so may Timna, but again Intel may have lost some time here."

Wouldn't that be pointless if it is supposed to have a DRDRAM controller on the chip?