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To: Frank A. Coluccio who wrote (4959)8/12/1999 6:51:00 PM
From: DenverTechie  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12823
 
Frank, I knew it would be just a matter of time before you weighed in on this one.

I am by no means an expert on this topic, and figured that most, if not, all of these items have already been debated on the VoIP thread. By experts like you who know many of these endless details of push and shove regarding IP issues.

You're right of course, that my response was fairly unbounded, and it was from the "let's look at what the common cable operator sees when he thinks about loading up his HFC network with IP telephone" perspective. Really, I don't think your average cable system operator in any of those trial cities I mentioned in my response would even know those questions to ask in your feedback, from what I've seen at the system level. Maybe at the corporate level, like AT&T Labs or Bell Labs, but not the cable guy in Salt Lake. This can be seen in the system's reliance for cable modem technology from RoadRunner, Excite@Home, and HSAC. This is a major learning curve at the system level for anything spelled IP.

The response I gave was by no means exhaustive, just illustrative at an extremely high level of some of the very sticky technical and operational issues confronting VoIP for cable systems, and some reasons why a migration plan from circuit-switched cable telephone to IP based cable telephone is the logical way to go for the next several years. Cable just can't wait for VoIP to be ready for prime-time. They need to deploy voice/data services now, while preparing for IP telephone. And do it without having millions of dollars of stranded circuit-switched voice equipment in their plant.



To: Frank A. Coluccio who wrote (4959)8/13/1999 11:34:00 AM
From: Frank A. Coluccio  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12823
 
OT - Re: Service Provider Disaster Recovery/Business Continuation

Some notes of interest concerning the Chicago power outage from the NANOG List:

Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 16:31:15 -0500
From: <SD>

Subject: Re: POWER: Chicago, IL power problems

[As of yesterday at 4PM:]

Commonwealth Edison now estimates it will be 18-22 hours before the power
is restored. The blackout area has already expanded once, and CE may have
to shutdown more areas to complete repairs. The affected area is bound by
Adams Street on the north, Roosevelt Road on the South, Dearborn Street on
the West and Michicgan Avenue on the east.

ISP/Telco infrastructure affected: Currently ISPs are reporting that
Ameritech ISDN service center can't test any ISDN lines. Two major
CLEC/IXC facilities are in the blackout area, and are on backup power.
Several smaller CLEC/ISPs also report they are on backup power.

If you get out your Mapquest, the Chicago NAP is outside the current
blackout area, and is currently unaffected. It has its own backup
generator just in case (see, some good things do come from Y2K :-)

Since the 18-22 hour estimate exceeds the normal 4-8 battery life telco's
use on equipment in non-CO office buildings, there may be some additional
outages as muxes and equipment in out-of-the-way places run out of power.