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To: John Sladek who wrote (8353)	8/14/1999 3:32:00 AM
From: John Sladek	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 12810

UPCA Update: The suckers bought the UPCA Press release, which announced that the used car dealers had found a cure for aids, but there seem to be some questions about the veracity of the information contained in the Reuters press release where the SEC announced: biz.yahoo.com The Securities and Exchange Commission charged a publicly-traded Las Vegas, Nev., company on Friday with making false claims to have virtually eliminated the AIDS-causing HIV virus in patients. At the same time, the U.S. Attorney's office in Manhattan said it arrested Alfred Flores, a convicted felon who headed a subsidiary of the OTC Bulletin Board company sued, Uniprime Capital Acceptance Inc. (OTC BB:UPCA - news). ... The U.S. Attorney's office said Flores had an extensive criminal record, including a 1984 conviction for conspiracy to commit financially-motivated murder, for which he had served nine years. ragingbull.com What do you say we check the last PR by the SEC. Was Flores really arrested and in prison as they say? I suspect that a little checking into these statements might be interesting. What if there is no convict names Alfred Flores? What if their whole story falls apart? What if? What if? ... Now I suppose you are going to accept everything the SEC says as true; just because it validates your beliefs. ragingbull.com Add to that my basic distrust of Uncle Sam and I hope that you get my point. IMO anything is possible at this point. I would be very curious to see if there really is a convicted felon named Alfred Flores. ragingbull.com PR says Flores in jail in Colorado, 84-93. At least he was convicted in 1984 and spent 9 years in prison; could be '85 to '94 depending on how the courts worked. Is there a way to check this out? The PR goes on to say that Alfred Flores was convicted of conspiracy to commit financially-motivated murder. Never heard of the crime before but sounds like a federal offense (probably didn't pay his taxes). I don't know how many federal prisons there are in Colorado but it should be possible to verify this story Regards, John Sladek

To: John Sladek who wrote (8353)	8/16/1999 9:25:00 PM
From: broken_cookie	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12810

Here's another UPCA beaut from TODAY. And the guy is not kidding: ragingbull.com [SIC] TO ALL CURRENT SHAREHOLDERS: I think there really is a cure, and all this negitive news has been conspired to cheat everyone out of their stock at extremely tanked prices. I don't care if it goes to .01, I have an order in at .05 to buy some more. If the SEC let the stock start trading after a 2 week investigation without making any statements to shareholders, and all this stuff is true, and the SEC knew it and didn't tell anyone, then the SEC are the ones that should be locked up. I don't beleive any of this garbage. Think about it, either someone doesn't want a cure found because it would financially destroy the medical facilities for treeting HIV, or someone doesn't want Uniprime, or any of us to profit from having the courage to invest it this. If I loose every dime invested is won't kill me. We still havn't seen any proof one way or another on this.