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To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (31)	8/14/1999 3:40:00 PM
From: PROLIFE	Respond to of 48

Well, when they make a Honda Accord that will seat 8 and pull a loaded car trailer, then I might get rid of the 'burb. dan

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (31)	8/14/1999 5:48:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Respond to of 48

Not for ALL customers, and I think it is really important not to telegraph prejudicial hate on this issue. It strikes me as kinda counterprogressive to presume frivolous intent when you see a Yup in a ute. A Hummer is truly impractical, so by suggesting I "stand out" you are appealing to my status gland - which is quite atrophied. If I bought a ute (might, might not) it would be for strictly practical reasons. The foremost among these is that there is simply no car with sufficient passenger capacity made today. If passengers are measured as baby seats - all sedans OR wagons made today are limited to a driver and three passengers. Minivans are better - the body count goes up to five (that rear benchlet will accept two adults, short ones, but only one butt bucket.) I won't argue that for many ute buyers - status is part of the equation. But if I bought a ute - I'd lament its size and its fuel use (I'd get 2WD and the smallest available engine since I don't drive in snow country or have toys to tow) but I'd yield to the fact that NOTHING else shy of a full van conversion (and those are even worse on parking and fuel than a 'Burban!!) will schlep the carcasses. I don't own a tall vehicle now, but I won't exclude owning one on purely ideological reasons - y'know, to upset my status as an environmentally aware citizen. They don't build the big Vista Cruisers anymore. It's worth noticing that they faded out as mandatory buttbuckets were invading the family scene. This is really important: baby seats are BIG. Two baby seats are more hungry for buttspace ("hiproom" if I were even remotely hip) than two adults with a combined weight of 450 pounds. I know; I live that truth. The big Buicks and Lincolns will NOT accept two such and an adult (well, an adult my size; we're talking Julia Child here, not Pat Morita) and two buttbuckets across the rear bench. Startling, huh? Only the 'Burban or its stubby Tahoe cousin will acccept three tortoiseshells abreast - and why bother with the stubbie when the long one costs the same to operate - insurance, gas, maintenance. It's a no-brainer for me. But as long as we can - we're gonna tough it out with the Accord.