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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (51402)	8/15/1999 12:06:00 PM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 108807

1.)John Brown; 2.)Lincoln was a moderate abolitionist. The Republican Party broke with the Whigs over that issue; 3.)Yes, slavery had been debated endlessly, and the problem was the admittance of new states to the Union, which would eventually shift the balance against the slave states. Secession had mainly arisen as an idea in the context of that debate; 4.)The blockade ensued as a result of secession, prior to the outbreak of armed hostilities; 5.)The issue about which States' Rights came into question was slavery. Tariffs were an irritant, but were clearly the province of the Federal Government.....

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (51402)	8/16/1999 8:01:00 PM
From: nihil	Respond to of 108807

Pretty twisted views, there, buddy. I think you mean "John Brown" not "Sam Brown" (the guy with the belt.) The whole tale of prewar struggle is nothing that anyone could be very proud of. The relatively few abolitionitions often wanted to secede themselves. Lincoln well into 1962 favored compensated emancipation and colonization of blacks. Starting in 1863, many blacks were recruited into federal forces (about 10 per cent of all union troops were black by the end of the war). By the time the war was over, the South was recruiting black slave soldiers (at the demand of Robert E. Lee). You may recall that it was the forces of SC who fired on Ft. Sumter (starting the war after "seceding") after seizing a battery from the U.S. on shore. Then they fired on the relief ship Star of the West and Union forces surrendered as previously agreed. Major Anderson, USA in command came very close to treason in my opinion. Lincoln had to sneak into Washington for his inauguration, and called for several hundred thousand troops to suppress rebellion. The blocade (my great grandfather Speights was a blockade runner captain.) as you suggest was to wage economic war against the South. Trading cotton for guns and coffee in Nassau was a very profitable deal. Many ports were closed, and Southern politicians thought that the pressure on England would lead them to open the blockade. The support of out of work British textile workers of the North was important in preventing Bertrand Russell's grandfather (Lord Russell) from intervening. Northern business men and generals followed close behind the troops to profiteer from exported cotton. The economics of the Civil War is very important to understand.