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To: Steve Porter who wrote (68946)	8/16/1999 1:28:00 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572719

Re: "That's a little disturbing to me, and it should a little disturbing to you too..... I realize that they aren't FREE per say" Steve, AMD has been "literally giving away" K6xs to gain market share since they were first introduced. Why is it that you weren't bothered then? EP

To: Steve Porter who wrote (68946)	8/16/1999 1:32:00 PM
From: Joey Smith	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572719

Steve, maybe the "deal" that Gateway got was high priority on the XEON chips. I hear that demand is outstripping supply. Remeber, it's in the OEM's best interest to sell higher-priced systems (PIII/XEON) with all the accessories than cheapo Celeron systems with free Internet access. joey

To: Steve Porter who wrote (68946)	8/16/1999 4:48:00 PM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572719

Steve - Re: " Intel is literally GIVING Gateway free celerons on the conditions that they purchase x number of PII/PIII's and DO NOT sell Athlon Systems." I find that totally bogus. Intel is being investigated by the FTC and you believe they would pull that kind of a STUNT ? Check your source - I'll bet that it is a disgruntled AMD person - who can't accept the fact that they lost a big account because of poor PRIOR performance - and expected similar poor delivery/compatability with the AthLATE. Paul

To: Steve Porter who wrote (68946)	8/16/1999 7:25:00 PM
From: Charles R	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572719

Steve, <Intel is literally GIVING Gateway free celerons on the conditions that they purchase x number of PII/PIII's and DO NOT sell Athlon Systems.> The first part is believable the second part is not. Bundling is a common business practice when ASPs head south. It is smart because it alleviates ASP pressure while getting some additional revenue dollars. If the basis of the rumor is true then it is more likely to be "you buy 'x' PIIIs and we will give you a credit for 'y' dollars that can be used toward Celeron purchases". Now "x" can be defined in such a way that it is the entire high-end CPU usage by Gateway for the Christmas season but I doubt if Gateway would sign up for something like that. It is a safe bet that AMD is doing the bundling deals w.r.t. K7s and K6s for some of the OEMs. I don't see anything sinister here. Because of availability of chips or motherboards or whatever AMD could not close the deal. Some sales guy's commision is on the line. I am sure AMD is redoubling their efforts to fix that. Chuck P.S.: OEMs are known for routinely breaking the volume commitments in the bundling deals and chip supplier just swallow it because they can't afford to piss off OEMs - very common in this biz. Bottom line: AMD still has a shot.