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To: pat mudge who wrote (12821)8/17/1999 3:14:00 PM
From: Glenn McDougall  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 18016
 
I love it, thanks Pat lots of fun :-)))

<<********OTOTOTOTOTO**********

Communications carriers generally refuse to discuss their vendors at all, yet Ebbers publicly questioned
whether Lucent, which spent $20 billion of its stockholders' money to acquire Ascend earlier this year, has been managing that deal correctly.

Can't you just hear it?????

McGinn to his assistant: "That's Ejabat --- E - J - A - B - A - T. And that IS his number. He gave it to me a few months back. It has to be right!!! I need him NOW!!!"

Assistant: "Rich, that number has been disconnected ---"

McGinn: "Fu*&^%$!!!!!!!! Try his Antigua number --- and make it fast!!!"

Assistant: "Rich, I tried. The housekeeper says to try Monte Carlo."

McGinn: "Goddammit!!!! Where the hell is he?????"

Assistant: "Ringing. Stand by. . .

McGinn: "Well make it fast --- Bernie's on the other line. He wants an answer now. . ."

Assistant: "I got Francesca. She says to try Chamonix. Something about climbing Mont Blanc. . ."

McGinn: "Sh&^%$!!! If he's not there, try Maui . . . He has to be at one of his f*&^%$-ing homes. . . "

Assistant: "Try to relax. I'll let you know when I find him. . ."

McGinn: Fu*&^%$#@!!!!!!! I don't care if it takes all day. Tell him to get his skinny ass back to New Jersey right now!!!!"

McGinn to Ebbers: "No problem, Bernie, Morey's on his way as we speak. No. No. No. He's not going to let me down. He's on top of it. His guys are sharp. Don't worry about a thing. What
was that???? You're going to do WHAT???? No, no, that's not necessary. I know that software works. Morey promised. . . ">>



To: pat mudge who wrote (12821)8/18/1999 1:06:00 AM
From: Tunica Albuginea  Respond to of 18016
 
OTOTOTOTXXXX Pat, hilarious. I was impressed that you were actually able to locate Morey in Chamonix and Monte Carlo. I thought he's joined the MSFT boys in the Arizona desert. I think Morey has a french background; a graduate of L"Ecole Polytechnique/Elect.Engineering , Paris. Do you think Benny ever t/a/l/k/e/d shouted at in him in French-Canadian during the brown-out? The Anglophones in Kanata Ontario must be rolling on the barrell with this.

And what do you think TM is saying about all this to Alan L:

"Yes Alan, as amatter of fact I talked to Bernie about this very issue in 1945 right after the War. I did inform him of the difference between a PC network and the telephones. Yes, very different.I specifically remeber telling him that when the PC goes out the customer just cusses and drops in to Best Buy and then goes to the show. With the telephone it is very different as you know Alan.
People that can't yak on the phone get very claustrophobic.They feel isolated like the world is closing in on them. They call their psychiatrist their lawyer, all kinds of nasty stuff . I told
" Bernie, don't kid around with these things ". But no, you know Bernie: he kept saying Lu here and LU there, great switches and the guy was just out of it. Very sad indeed Alan. Who's going to take his call now, you want me to or do you have time?

Oh and BTW Alan, if McGinn calls me, please tell him I am taking my grandma out for her 90th birthday; I will call him as soon as possible.Yes I will call him he doesn't have to call back.

TA

********OTOTOTOTOTO**********

Communications carriers generally refuse to discuss their vendors at all, yet
Ebbers publicly questioned
whether Lucent, which spent $20 billion of its stockholders' money to acquire
Ascend earlier this year, has been managing that deal correctly.

Can't you just hear it?????

McGinn to his assistant: "That's Ejabat --- E - J - A - B - A - T. And that IS his
number. He gave it to me a few months back. It has to be right!!! I need him
NOW!!!"

Assistant: "Rich, that number has been disconnected ---"

McGinn: "Fu*&^%$!!!!!!!! Try his Antigua number --- and make it fast!!!"

Assistant: "Rich, I tried. The housekeeper says to try Monte Carlo."

McGinn: "Goddammit!!!! Where the hell is he?????"

Assistant: "Ringing. Stand by. . .

McGinn: "Well make it fast --- Bernie's on the other line. He wants an answer now. .
."

Assistant: "I got Francesca. She says to try Chamonix. Something about climbing
Mont Blanc. . ."

McGinn: "Sh&^%$!!! If he's not there, try Maui . . . He has to be at one of his
f*&^%$-ing homes. . . "

Assistant: "Try to relax. I'll let you know when I find him. . ."

McGinn: Fu*&^%$#@!!!!!!! I don't care if it takes all day. Tell him to get his skinny
ass back to New Jersey right now!!!!"

McGinn to Ebbers: "No problem, Bernie, Morey's on his way as we speak. No. No.
No. He's not going to let me down. He's on top of it. His guys are sharp. Don't worry
about a thing. What was that???? You're going to do WHAT???? No, no, that's not
neccessary. I know that software works. Morey promised. . . "


TA



To: pat mudge who wrote (12821)8/18/1999 2:33:00 AM
From: Tunica Albuginea  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 18016
 
pat: " NN and Cascade Comm/Ascend/Lu": look at what I unearthed:

Message 1124097
To: +Thomas Scharf (1342 )
From: +Herb Duncan
Friday, Apr 4 1997 9:16AM ET
Reply # 1343 of 12830

I have been following the thread but have been too busy to jump in but have decided it
was time to add my 2 cents worth, NN had been working with Acend on joint marketing
and had exchanges sensitive company information, and I would expect signed
non-disclosure agreements. Then wham out of the blue we have the Ascend/Cascade
deal. You dont cut a deal like that overnight, I think Ascend pulled a fast one,
but I also
think they made the wrong decision. Why?? With all due respect I dont think NN is well
covered in the states. I dont think there is an appreciation for NN's global positioning and
the relationship with Siemens and how that can be leveraged for future business.. If you
were picking a partner who would you pick???? (Rhetorical question hopefully)

As for the Ascend/Cascade deal, ...... does anyone remember the Wellfleet Synoptics
merger??? Ouch, looks like a repeat to me.
The smart money is on Newbridge.

Message 1125994
To: +Herb Duncan (1343 )
From: +Mephisto
Friday, Apr 4 1997 1:30PM ET
Reply #1350 of 12830

Herb, Thanks for filling us in. Did not realize Ascend and NN exchanged sensitive
information. So Ascend pulled a fast one on NN. I'm sure Mr. Matthews will keep that in
his mind, for a very long time.


Message 1187431

To: +Mephisto (1394 )
From: +len grasso
Monday, Apr 14 1997 1:37PM ET
Reply # 1396 of 12830

M,
If you listen to the Cascade Communications conference call, you will
hear one of the executives slam Newbridge as a loser....Thought that was a revolting
development!