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To: D.J.Smyth who wrote (1874)8/18/1999 4:26:00 PM
From: Scrapps  Respond to of 1998
 
Munich , May 21, 1999
Siemens offers service providers all the broadband end-to-end xDSL-solutions for the digital subscriber access

For the trade press


The Siemens Information and Communication Networks Group offers service providers global end-to-end solutions for implementing all DSL technologies. The range of technologies available includes ADSL, U-ADSL/G.Lite, HDSL and SDSL. Using systems from Siemens, service providers can connect subscribers either to the ATM broadband access system XpressLink D in the local exchange, or to the digital switching system EWSD, or via the network access system FastLink. The requisite DSL technologies and the user products are developed by Siemens both in their own research laboratories and in close cooperation with global leaders in this field such as Infineon, Amati Corp., Aware Inc., Efficient Networks Inc. and Texas Instruments Inc. Cooperation is in areas of joint activities such as specifications for innovative applications in hardware and software, development, manufacturing, product sales and marketing as well as complete solutions. At the forefront of all the development work is the task of creating DSL system solutions tailored to the individual needs of the service providers and suitable for setting up an end-to-end DSL infrastructure with the appropriate services such as teleworking, remote LAN access and faster Internet access.

Joint ventures for DSL technology exist with:

Amati Communications Corp., San Jose, California, USA, for joint development of products for transmitting ATM data via ADSL connections. Amati develops ADSL end devices and software which Siemens integrates into ATM systems. Siemens has been working together with Amati and Texas Instruments since the end of 1996 on XpressLink D and ADSL and since end of 1998 they have integrated G.Lite as a software option in XpressLink D. Amati was bought up by Texas Instruments over a year ago but cooperation between Siemens and TI continues.

Aware Inc., Bedford, Massachusetts, USA, in the area of U-ADSL/G.Lite technology for rapid subscriber access to the Internet. Aware supplies G.lite-compatible DSL system design, software models and services for optimization at the system level. G.Lite (U-ADSL) software from Aware is implemented in the Subscriber Line Module (SLM) using network access technology - in the EWSD digital switching system at the interface to the subscriber.

Efficient Networks Inc., Dallas, USA, for joint development , manufacturing and sales of end-to-end solutions for digital subscriber connections (DSL) with the ATM broadband access system XpressLink D by service providers based on ATM technology. Efficient Networks develops and markets CPE devices with the SpeedStream DSL product range such as external Ethernet modems, external USB modems as well as internal modems and adapters for end users. Efficient's Speedstream products are used in XpressLink D and EWSD as subscribers' modems.

Infineon Technologies, a Siemens subsidiary, for developing innovative semiconductor solutions for the EWSD system. Infineon is global leader in semiconductor manufacturing for integration of interfaces for telecommunications.

Texas Instruments Inc. (TI), Dallas, USA for developing an integrated subscriber line card for EWSD local exchanges. EWSD uses a digital signal processor (DSP) from TI which uses TMS320C6000 technology. The subscriber line card forms a G.Lite (U-ADSL) interface. Voice communication using this technology occurs in parallel with data communication in accordance with the specifications for G.Lite. The Siemens solution currently supports two subscriber modems per DSP (eight subscriber connections with voice and data communication per card) and enables service providers to equip their EWSD switching systems for DSL technology without requiring additional racks or new cabling in the local exchange. In addition or alternately, XpressLink D offers the option of incorporating both ADSL and G.Lite in all existing networks independent from the existing narrowband technology. XpressLink D currently offers the highest integration with two G.Lite or ADSL subscribers per card with the next version increasing the number of subscribers to sixteen. G.Lite implementation from Siemens and TI allows Internet access without changes to home cabling, "Plug and Play" and without diplexers (splitter or network termination, NT) at both connection ends.

Siemens is developing a rapid Internet access for ISDN subscribers with SDSL for speeds of up to 2.3 Mbit/s in both directions.

Siemens uses its extensive experience in the technology of voice-data integration to integrate the various DSL technologies into the broadband access system XpressLink D as well as into the EWSD switching system family and the Access Network System FastLink

XpressLink D from Siemens is a broadbandconnection system providing broadband IP and ATM services via ADSL, U-ADSL/G.Lite and in the future also SDSL and VDSL technology via copper cable. XpressLink D can be installed in the local exchange or in a 3GDLC system (Integrated Narrowband/Broadband Digital Loop Carrier System), e.g. in FastLink D as an access platform for comprehensive end-to-end services.

EWSD from Siemens are digital communication systems which combine the currently separate networks for voice/ISDN, Internet traffic and broadband communication. Under the banner "EWSD Innovations" with its EWSD PowerNode, EWSD InterNode and EWSD BroadbandNode, Siemens is developing high performance platforms for all existing and new communication services and, with its modern broadband family, is offering a universal infrastructure for Internet, voice and data. It supports popular services from voice communication via the Internet to multimedia applications via one uniform network access. EWSD Innovations offers network providers solutions for rapid and flexible provision of newly-combined voice/data services. The end customer can be offered all the services from a single source.

FastLink from Siemens is a modular access system used for telephony, data networks, city and corporate networks. FastLink is a universal platform providing the operator with a uniform system for all services under the common management system AccessIntegrator.

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To: D.J.Smyth who wrote (1874)8/18/1999 6:49:00 PM
From: savolainen  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1998
 
[siemens xdsl]

hi darrell,

(x)dsl for siemens means many things depending on which letter is substituted for "x" ... ;) and also whether it's systems or silicon ... .. kinda convoluted - fwiw best i've been able to piece it together (haven't checked hdsl/sdsl for a while):

siemens seems to be using txn adsl silicon now, and partnered with ecil to grow their own adsl silicon, believe it's adtran(?) for hdsl2/sdsl(?) silicon, and they're under agreement to use orct/harris silicon for vdsl, but at the same time they have invested in another israeli co. savan who is developing vdsl silicon... and orct and fujitsu seem to be cozying up together for vdsl systems..
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don't think this particular siemens' announcement will have much of an impact on orct/fujitsu as it is about a g.lite central office switch card ... a product which orct/fujitsu doesn't seem particularly interested in chasing and it is g.lite adsl..

and siemens has been working on their own adsl all along..

for a while back in late '97/ early '98, thought that there was potential for the orct/siemens vdsl relationship to be extended to adsl... but that has never developed to my knowledge...

for adsl, siemens is definitely a competitor for orct/fujitsu, tho for pc's in europe fujitsu and siemens have a joint deal... fujitsu and siemens go way way back together to the '20's when fujitsu was spun off from furukawa electric.. fujitsu's major initial products were switches built using licensed siemens technology...

it will be interesting to see how the fujitsu/siemens computer venture handles adsl cpe ... wouldn't be at all surprised if a third party like intc becomes involved..

altho siemens has been working on adsl for some time, they seem to be having their problems... for the dt deployment they only got 10% or so, with orct/fujitsu taking 50% and eci getting 40%... don't know if you saw the recent globes article on eci... globes noted that orct is the only vendor currently shipping... interesting reading.. link that i'd saved has now either been changed or is gone- the relevant quote:

..."ECI's biggest problem is that, whenever they get into a new sector, they do it too late. The latest example is the fast modem market (ADSL). Orckit's products hit the market in early 1998. ECI, on the other hand, has yet to sell a single product, despite repeated announcements of its imminent entry into the ADSL sector.

"Last year, ECI and Orckit won most of Deutsche Telekom's important ADSL tender (Orckit - 50%, and ECI 40%). Yet so far Orckit is the only one to have sold systems to Deutsche Telekom. ECI hasn't sold anything to the German company, for the simple reason that it has not yet released its product on the market..."

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also in the recent dataquest adsl report for europe, siemens isn't listed among the top three: it's alcatel #1; orct #2; ericsson #3: for cpe, co, and revenue..

siemens is developing their own adsl silicon, rumored together with eci ... sure looks like a key chip in the adsl chipset-the digital data pump PEB 22712, has been delayed... now showing product availability q2/00 ... (in oct 98 date was q2 99)
infineon.com

until eci and siemens get the kinks out would expect them to continue to use txn ... txn's new chipset (ADSL over ISDN capable) is due in volume "later in the third quarter of 1999..." so the schedule (kinda) fits the globe's comment that eci will be shipping to dt in september
ti.com

see ya
s



To: D.J.Smyth who wrote (1874)8/19/1999 12:29:00 PM
From: SteveG  Respond to of 1998
 
This move may be related to Siemens recent Redstone acquisition (which began life as an edge-aggregating router)