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To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (52056)8/19/1999 12:44:00 AM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 108807
 
The monkey I was describing did not learn it from another monkey, and she (her name was Grace, I believe) taught it to the others without language. It was the invention that was remarkable, as it was described. It was unique, and without precedent, for this group of monkeys. Clearly the result of reason, which is sapience.

As for what the rest of us do, even me, although I wouldn't presume to speak for you, I don't know that I invent or originate anything, I just copy what the others do. Is that sapience?



To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (52056)8/19/1999 2:37:00 AM
From: Krowbar  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
I have a friend that did research on dolphins and he told me that he had observed them coordinating leaps out of the water even though they were in separate pens with a concrete barrier between them. I guess that they can communicate pretty well.

Del



To: Jacques Chitte who wrote (52056)8/19/1999 11:53:00 AM
From: The Philosopher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
What is missing is language - the monkeys do not tell a story about this skill.

Are you being too limited in your definition of language? Must it be spoken or written language? After all, don't bees tell stories of how to get to certain sources of nectar through dances?