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To: jttmab who wrote (3958)	8/21/1999 11:28:00 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

I understand why you thought them rhetorical, my fault...but I was honestly curious...Bill sometimes shoots from the hip, and infers motives that need not apply in a given instance, I grant. He does not always do so, and although I do not recall the initial sequence, I would not be surprised if there were something that had gotten his "blood up". I have actually tried to figure out if I could productively intervene in that one, but had not yet decided. Have you considered trying to answer reasonably, and with a mind to ratcheting down?....I have never seen jla use the term "fag" before this, and, in fact, he joined me once in taking truedog to task for over- heated language on the gay issue. I do not excuse the slip, I merely point out that it was one, which is why, although I was a bit shocked, I did not jump on him. On the general point, I have, as occasion warranted, stepped in from time to time to deplore some rhetorical excess from some of these people. But when someone like Barry goads truedog by making a tasteless joke about aborting Republicans, I do not feel like leaping down his throat if he loses his temper. Everyone here knows that I disapprove, I need not constantly reiterate it....I do not deny your right to make jokes, especially if you feel provoked, but you are not improving the atmosphere of the thread by associating yourself with Barry, which surprises me in any case....

To: jttmab who wrote (3958)	8/24/1999 11:10:00 AM
From: Bill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Catching up with the thread, I came across your long winded plea for civility and proof. It is amusing that you use me as one of your examples, but not surprising that you document out of context. For the record, here is the complete sequence: -------------------------------------------------------------- You wrote: “Way to go truedog, Melinda talks about adoption and women being tired and you say don't screw around. Duh. Try reading more slowly, perhaps it will help” Robert Barry wrote: “Hey! Take it easy on truedog. If you don't, he won't tell you what time visiting hours are, where he is staying.” You said: “When we're done with truedog. I suggest the next be jallen.” I said: “Taking shots a JLA while he's not around shows particular cowardice reserved for troglodyte Marxists like you. “ You said: “Billy boy...first, I think jla is going on vacation so it's moot. I certainly wouldn't want to interrupt or delay his vacation plans. Much like truedog, you apparently have a reading problem. I didn't take any shots at JLA. Second, if your single cell brain can find any posts that I've made that can be associated with Marxist philosophy, it would amaze me. But you can't, can you? Because, you Bill boy don't know what your talking about and you can only rely on baseless name calling because that is all you are capable of. “ I said: “With each post, you prove your ignorance. Keep it up, Jimbo.” You said: “Show me that Marxist post Bill” I said: “I called you a Marxist. What's your problem, can't write OR read? “ Then you lament to Neocon: "So, how would you characterize people who make unsupportable accusations?" ----------------------------------------------------------- Now Jim, let's see if you can support your accusations. You state that truedog needs to read more slowly and that he has a reading problem. Where is the post that proves how quickly he reads? Where is your proof, the posts, that talk about the "visiting hours" for truedog and jla? Where is the post where I call myself "Billy Boy"? Where is the medical evidence of my brain containing only a "single cell"? You see, Jim, you are the one who instigated the sniping with your crude insinuations and baseless name calling. Your problem is that you are incapable of critiquing your own actions. Now that's a truly liberal trait!