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To: E who wrote (52724)	8/22/1999 1:06:00 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

There is quite a distinction here- allow me to make it. One has (imo) the right to end one's own species, the "selfish" woman would be making that choice. The squirrel, on the other hand, is not deciding to end its species' life, another species- humans, and more specifically loggers, are making that decision. I won't use squirrels, since they don't appear to me to have a very complex society- but take dolphins- if dolphins decided not to reproduce, for whatever dolphin reasons they might have (and these decisions were not being made because of- for example- heavy metal poisoning, which was the fault of man) and the dolphin population neared extinction- that would be a dolphin choice, and I would not want man to interfere- assuming we could know all the things I hypothesize, which, of course, we really can't know at this time. Or- to take a better understood less problematic species- if gorillas decided to end their race, by refusing to breed, that would (I think) be up to them. I do not believe we should exert complete dominion over other life forms- we certainly have the power of dominion, but not an absolute right to it in any moral sense (imo).

To: E who wrote (52724)	8/22/1999 5:07:00 PM
From: Michael M	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Just a quickie, E. You begin by saying you take my word for the content of posts I identified and end by saying my depiction of my politeness falls short of perfect accuracy. Sounds like a contradiction to me. Not that I would claim perfection. I am certainly not going to recommend that you actually review the posts but am confident that a review would verify my claims. I acknowledged being rude to Joan -- more than once. I apologized or expressed regret or expressed respect for people with views other than my own -- more than once. Sort of a one way ride, don't you think, E? I don't recall being rude to the entire Grammar thread but, if you say so..... I must admit that you were conspicuous in focusing on the issue instead of the revolting nature of the question. Even though I think you flip flopped at the end, I compliment you on your thoughtful contributions. Final thought -- loggers and squirrels fit nowhere in my personal view of sacrifice comparable to "rape." The example I preferred was a young solider willing to face certain death for the sole reason of benefiting people he doesn't even know. Good wishes