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To: Iceberg who wrote (14168)	8/23/1999 7:37:00 PM
From: George Papadopoulos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 17770

> how does one tell a Serb from an Albanian? Serbs generally have a better sense of style in clothes...While Albanians,in general,look like they came out of a Salvation Army sidewalk sale...at least now, even after 15 years of sanctions and war, Serbs are still better dressed. Serb women, in general, are much better looking than Albanian. Serbs have an excellent sense of humor and generally will be seen smiling/laughing much more than the Albanians...Actually I still have not seen an Albanian smile yet. Thank God we have Clinton and Blair standing up to stop genocide!<VBG>

To: Iceberg who wrote (14168)	8/24/1999 12:19:00 PM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 17770

How about this quiz: how does one tell a Jewish golfer from an all-American golfer? Here's the story: No Jews on their golf courses Anti-Semitism in America is not only the preserve of extremists. It is alive and well among the seemingly civilised middle class, writes Daniel Jeffreys When the white supremacist Buford O Furrow Jr shot five children in a Jewish daycare centre on Thursday 12 August he was doing something that has become more American than apple pie. Over the past year, 15 Furrow types have gone hunting with a bagload of military-style weapons for the purpose of killing a stranger of the wrong race or colour. Jews in particular have become the scapegoat of the growing number of far-right hate groups who blame them for the success of the civil rights movement, blame Jewish women for women's equality and Jewish entertainers for the advancement of gay rights. Nor is American anti-Semitism the preserve of extremists. When Furrow called his attack " a wake-up call to America to kill Jews", he was addressing the millions of Americans who subscribe to a deep-rooted tradition that stretches back to Ulysses S Grant, who expelled Jews from Tennessee during the American civil war. This middle-class bigotry never fails to shock Europeans, who have traditionally viewed American Jewry as a powerful lobby group and highly successful minority that is also an assimilated and integral element of the United States. That may be true among the chattering classes in New York and LA, but beyond these metropolitan boundaries the picture is far more sinister. [...] Full story: newstatesman.co.uk BTW, are you related to that Mr. Iceberg who surreptitiously went aboard the Titanic over half a century ago? (Just curious.... I don't mean any Jewish conspiracy to wreck the Titanic!)

To: Iceberg who wrote (14168)	8/24/1999 2:54:00 PM
From: MNI	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 17770

You have asked the wrong question, Iceberg. If killing isn't done by way of public execution, (and sometimes even then) you can afford to kill some of your own party. You have then a multiplicity of options to go on. You can claim (alternatively, or cumulatively, depends on the current level of havoc) - that person was killed by the other party. Very helpful with demonizing 'them', which is your main goal, anyway. - that person was not a foe himself, but he was a relative of one. - that person was a traitor, a collaborator, or a relative of one, or he 'was about' to become one - that person was fighting on your side, but had taken money from your groups' fighting budget for his own purposes. I think even with this basic, restricted choice of the political terrorists' instrumentarium you should be able to 'correctly' cleanse ethnically even if your rate of error is 50% ,,, Anyway, you have a number of inklings in the Kosovo case, maybe stronger than in the Irish case: Serbs are unlikely to go to a mosque, many Albanians have different names, language is different. Although these signs may not be seen at first sight, neighbours will know. Regards MNI.