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To: RealMuLan who wrote (9187)8/24/1999 1:14:00 PM
From: Bosco  Respond to of 9980
 
G'day all - hi Yiwu, thanks for the reposting of the article. Now, here is my problems. Ms Logan has failed in some factual points that may make her hasty at best - and worst, as Sam has observed, can be seen as highly biased.

1. HH the 14th Dalai Lama is still in the US - Bloomington, Indiana, to be precise. So, her statement, "...the Dalai Lama--who was in the U.S. last week..." really shows how little she checked her facts before rush her opinion to print in such an esteemed newspaper like the LA Times.

2. According to my informant - currently a college student - she was not taught Tibetan in school while she was growing up in Tibet. Obviously, she speaks the language, but she has not had the chance to learn the written language, a derivative of Sanskrit, until she came to the US.

3. While I agree with her absolutely it is unfair to all parties involved to see the sino-tibetan relationship in simplistic terms. IMHO, no one race can be all good or all bad. However, the so-called deadlock between Beijing and the Dalai Lama is based on unequal terms. As far back as 1987, the Dalai Lama faction of the Tibetan community has given up "Tibetan Independence" in return for a some sort of self rule [The Dalai Lama has proposed a five point plan, such as designating Tibet as a nuclear free zone etc.] To be fair, I reckon China has other considerations. She certainly cannot allow to set precedent in granting Tibet independence, else she runs the risk of setting off the domino for other minorities. I will be the last one wanting to see China repeating USSR's fate. Having said that, Chinese brutality in Tibet is well documented, unless Ms Logan considers Congressman Frank Wolf is a mouthpiece for Tibet.

4. Finally, Ms Logan's piece comes on the heel of Mr Daja Meston's situation does cast doubt about her intention.

Finally, as in case I am being accused of another Shriang La [sp?] dreamer. No, Tibet has a lot of internal politics just like everyone else. However, the Dalai Lama's attempt for a peaceful solution is probably the best bet to resolve the problem.

best, Bosco



To: RealMuLan who wrote (9187)8/24/1999 9:27:00 PM
From: Bosco  Respond to of 9980
 
Reprint for academic discussion only. The following is an editorial from The Boston Globe

boston.com

A BOSTON GLOBE EDITORIAL

A mission for Tibet

T
he Qinghai poverty reduction plan would move 57,000 desperately poor people from one of the most barren areas of China to a more fertile area to the west. Viewed in strictly economic terms, as the World Bank is doing, it makes perfect sense.

Daja Meston of Newton and a companion traveled to China earlier this month to encourage a broader examination of the project in the context of China's campaign to eradicate Tibet as an independent culture and replace it with dominance from Beijing. Meston was seriously injured after being detained by police in Qinghai Province last week. He should be released from China for medical treatment, and his case ought to prompt renewed examination of the Chinese threat to Tibetan culture.

Qinghai, once called Amdo, was the northeasternmost province of independent Tibet until Mao Zedong's Red Army conquered it in 1949. Mao's troops completed their seizure of Tibet two years later, and Tibetans have suffered ever since.

Meston and his Australian companion, Gabriel Lafitte, were accused of taking photos of a prison camp in Qinghai's Dulan County, where the resettlement project would be located. These camps are part of a network set up in China's arid west and north to house those who did not fit into the society being constructed by Mao's Communists. They are visible proof of Beijing's continuing tyranny.

While the World Bank approved the Qinghai project in June, it promised to release none of the $40 million until an inspection team examines the impact on the environment and ethnic minorities.

A spokesman for the bank said it is constrained by its charter, which states that its purpose is the reduction of poverty. But politics and poverty are often intertwined. Tibet has suffered horribly under the Chinese, and so have the border lands, since Mao treated the national economy as if it were a mad scientist's experiment.

Meston has endured much. So, in all probability, have his Tibetan guides, and without the help of foreign diplomats, their fate may be far worse. They have raised a question that the World Bank should not duck: Is it sensible policy to subsidize a campaign that has resulted in the subjugation of the Tibetan people?

This story ran on page A18 of the Boston Globe on 08/24/99.
¸ Copyright 1999 Globe Newspaper Company.



To: RealMuLan who wrote (9187)8/24/1999 10:01:00 PM
From: Bosco  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9980
 
Reprint for academic discussion only. The following [subsequent to the URL] is from The SF Chronicle

[note: it is not the poster's intention to turn this forum into a political thread, he posted this and the prior post #9193 to show that maybe [some of] the news media in the West are not so naive after all and they can identify the many shades of gray.]

sfgate.com

ASIA
Tibet Caught in China's Web Investment transforms face, culture of Himalayan land

John Pomfret, Washington Post

Saturday, July 24, 1999

It's always Christmas at JJ's Disco in Lhasa, a cheesy Chinese nightclub in the heart of Tibet's ancient capital. Grimy plastic cutouts of Santa line the halls into the cabaret. Neon-colored tassels of tinsel droop from its Greco-Roman columns.

Inside, Lu Zhen, a Tibetan elementary school teacher moonlighting as a nightclub singer, croons to a crowd of Chinese patrons, decked out in three-button suits and ultra-minis, all wielding mobile phones.

``Chinese, Tibetans,' she sings, ``we are all the daughters of one mother.'

Lu's salary at the nightclub is 10 times what she earns teaching Chinese and Tibetan language classes in a ramshackle school across town. ``With the money they give her,' said a friend, ``it makes it easier to believe the words she's singing.'

Forty years after Chinese troops crushed a rebellion in Lhasa, Tibet is at a crossroads -- its soul longing to be rid of China but its livelihood tied ever closer to Beijing.

While China pours billions of dollars into developing the region with its spectacular and forbidding landscape, Tibetans say they have little love for their colonial masters. Despite Chinese attempts to stifle Tibetan resistance -- including a ``patriotic education' campaign that since 1997 has defrocked hundreds of monks and closed dozens of monasteries -- support for the Dalai Lama, the exiled religious leader who is the campaign's target, remains sky-high.

A year ago, a rapprochement seemed possible between the Dalai Lama and Beijing. As resident Jiang Zemin spoke openly with President Clinton about China's secret contacts with the Dalai Lama's representatives, Chinese strategists floated an image of a multiethnic Chinese empire, of one country with many systems, a federation encompassing freewheeling Hong Kong, ancient Tibet, rust-belt Manchuria and Islamic Xinjiang.

The winds are now blowing in another irection. Chinese policy in Tibet is heavily influenced by the war in Kosovo, which fanned Chinese fears that some Tibetans, in a similar revolt, would take up arms against China and win backing from the West. Negotiations with the Dalai Lama are broken off, and the Chinese approach seems to be to let the 64-year-old leader die in exile in India.

But this strategy could bury the last chance for a peaceful solution to one of China's most vexing internal problems. In the West, Tibet is framed as a simple issue, the lines of right and wrong so tightly drawn that no room is left for ambiguity. The reality is more complex.

The road from Lhasa to the aquamarine Yang Lake winds past panhandling yak herders. At an altitude of 18,000 feet, the high desert is punctuated by boulders the size of houses and spreads beneath the white tentacles of glaciers descending from the mountains.

At a bend in the road, Kagong, a pint-sized 14-year-old in tattered clothes, explains is stunted frame in simple terms: ``I eat one meal a day.'

About 2 million ethnic Tibetans live in Tibet -- about half of all the Tibetans in China. Although 78 percent of the population are farmers or herders, they are unable to feed themselves. China's annual shipments of food aid -- averaging 110 pounds for each person in Tibet -- tide over the region during the barren winter months.

Kagong is lucky; he's in school. His 12-year-old friend, Kaxi, dropped out a year ago because his family needed him to tend the yaks. In the 1990 census, 72.8 percent of ethnic Tibetans over age 15 in Tibet were listed as illiterate or semiliterate -- more than three times China's national average.

About 10 hours by bad road from Yang Lake is Shigatse, Tibet's second city, on the banks of what becomes the Brahmaputra River as it flows south to Bangladesh. At 13,000 feet, Shigatse is one of the highest cities in the world. Under Chinese rule, its core of two-story earthen houses in the traditional Tibetan style has been eclipsed by Chinese urban design featuring boxy, white-tiled buildings.

In front of a $7 million downtown shopping center donated to Shigatse by the government of Shanghai is a monument to Chinese-Tibetan cooperation: a sculpture showing a Chinese woman from the country's dominant Han ethnic group in a miniskirt and go-go boots holding a ``belt of friendship' with a Tibetan lass in traditional clothing.

The shopping center is shaped like a ship, a symbol of Shanghai's openness to the outside world. In landlocked Shigatse, this ship doubles as a brothel.

Similar wacky investments abound throughout Tibet. The central government has paired provinces in China with cities in Tibet and pushed them to invest here.

The Shandong provincial government built the tallest building in Shigatse -- 10 stories -- for more than
$8 million. With its marbled interior, wine cellar, coffee shop and massage parlor, it's already a top hangout for Chinese and Tibetan public officials.

Inside the ship-shaped shopping center,
24-year-old Nima Siwang, a pudgy Tibetan banker, with a gold watch, is rolling strike after strike in the state-of-the-art bowling alley. Educated in Sichuan province and with a father in the police, he's one of the beneficiaries of Chinese rule.

``I come here all the time,' he said while two of his girlfriends cooed nearby, ``but very few other people can afford it.' In a moment of reflection, he conceded that Shigatse might have benefited more if Shanghai's largesse had resulted in something more useful, like a water treatment plant or street lights.

Back in Lhasa, Danzen, a truck driver who like many Tibetans has a single name, is the same age as Nima Siwang but inhabits another world. In 1997, Danzen spent a month in police custody after he was turned in for his views on independence.

At the station house, police shackled Danzen's hands behind his back, attached a wire to the handcuffs and administered an electric shock. ``It was like pieces of meat were falling from my body,' he said, speaking in a grungy speakeasy in a muddy Tibetan neighborhood. ``I'm ready to die for independence.'

On the streets of Lhasa and Shigatse, signs of China's domination are everywhere. Han Chinese run the factories, man the bars, do the shoe repairs, even sell the peaches. Official figures say that the population of Lhasa remains 89 percent Tibetan. Most people here estimate the ethnic division at
about 50-50 in the city center.

Many Han Chinese in Tibet view their Tibetan neighbors as backward heathens who benefit from China's manifest destiny. Chinese officials speak openly of assimilating Tibetans like the Han Chinese assimilated the Manchus, a northern tribe that ruled
China from 1664 to 1911. Today, Han make up 95 percent of China's 1.3 billion people.

``The Tibetans are lazy. It's only natural that Han people show them how to work,' said Li Menghui, a shoe repairman from Sichuan.

The Chinese are pursuing a strategy that banks on economic development to erode support for independence in Tibet -- as it has fostered stability
elsewhere in China -- and ultimately bridge the gap between Han and Tibetan cultures. ``As long as Tibet develops economically, all problems can be solved,' said Sonam Tsering, an economist in Tibet's government.

Meanwhile, Beijing is also relying on its ``patriotic education' campaign -- a program basically designed to sully the image of the Dalai Lama -- to break Tibetans' faith in Buddhism. The Dalai Lama's pictures have been banned in public. And the number of monks and nuns has been limited to 46,000, down from 150,000 before the 1959
rebellion.

``The government's limits are hurting our religion,' said one postulant at Lhasa's Jokhang monastery. ``We who are in our 20s and 30s don't have knowledge. The monks in their 40s and 50s have been either defrocked, killed in the Cultural Revolution or have gone to India. What is the future of Tibetan Buddhism? I don't know.'

While love for the Dalai Lama overflows in Tibet, few Tibetans would welcome a return of the corrupt aristocratic clans that fled with him in 1959 and that comprise the bulk of his advisers. Many Tibetan farmers, for example, have no interest in surrendering the land they gained during China's land reform to the clans. Tibet's former slaves say they, too, don't want their former masters to return to power.

``I've already lived that life once before,' said Wangchuk, a 67-year-old former slave who was wearing his best clothes for his yearly pilgrimage to Shigatse, one of the holiest sites of Tibetan Buddhism. He said he worshiped the Dalai Lama, but added, ``I may not be free under Chinese communism, but I am better off than when I was a slave.'


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To: RealMuLan who wrote (9187)8/25/1999 12:31:00 AM
From: hui zhou  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9980
 
Premier of the State Council of the People's Republic of China Zhu Rongji at a meeting with visiting Russian Deputy Prime Minister Ilya Klebanov at the Zhongnanhai party and government residence on Tuesday expressed satisfaction with the successful development of Russo-Chinese relations.

"Relations between Russia and China have been developing on a healthy basis," the head of the Chinese government said adding that the strategic partnership between the two countries initiated by Russian President Boris Yeltsin and Chairman of the People's Republic of China Jiang Zemin, "corresponds to vital interests of the two peoples and is fully supported by them. "

Zhu Rongji expressed confidence that this partnership would continue in the new century promoting the development of Russia and China, as well as the maintenance of peace and stability in the region and in the world as a whole.

On his part, Ilya Klebanov spoke in support of a concept of a multipolar world. "We must strengthen our mutual friendship," he said.

Klebanov, who attended a regular session of the Russo-Chinese Commission for Economic Cooperation and participated in the talks with Deputy Chairman of the Central Military Council of China Zhang Wannian, will visit on Thursday the Centre of aerospace modelling and one of the military units stationed near Beijing. His visit's programme also envisages trips to Shenzhen and Shanghai.

"Today's talks have passed simply excellently, really excellently!" he told Itar-Tass before a meeting with Premier Zhu Rongji.

The Russian delegation includes Rosvooruzhenie General Director Alexei Ogaryov and General Director of the Russian Space Agency Yuri Koptev. A number of agreements and contracts, the content of which has not been made public so far, are expected to be signed on at meetings with Chinese leaders.

As was announced here, the commission will discuss problems of cooperation of the two countries in the coming years, specifically, prospects for their cooperation in high-tech scientific research.

"We have come with a very big delegation. It will be a traditional meeting to discuss general economic problems," Klebanov told Itar-Tass on Tuesday.

According to him, the Russian delegation has brought several proposals, which have already been coordinated by the two sides, as well as "several new, very serious suggestions, including on military and technological cooperation. "

"Russia and China are strategic partners," Klebanov said. He stressed that cooperation in the military sphere is the evidence of "a high level of mutual confidence" between the two countries.

On August 28, the concluding day of his visit, Klebanov will be received by Chairman of the People's Republic of China Jiang Zemin.