To: larry larsen who wrote (2418 ) 8/27/1999 10:13:00 AM From: Liatris Spicata Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3764
Yo larry larsen- You got chutzpah, I'll say that. <<and what's this bit accusing people you don't even know of the potential of "thugery"?>> First, I accused nobody of thuggery. Guess precision is not exactly your long strong suit. Or maybe it's honesty. But my reference to thuggery was to certain union tactics in this country aimed at preventing a company from hiring replacement workers. Everything from destroying company property to shooting "scabs" has been used. I call that thuggery. And no, the IAM has not been notably active in that regard, and I never said was. So get off your high horse with your idiotic accusations. And "strong rhetoric". How's "Beginning with Reagan, the great racist ..." There, BTW is a specific accusation. A mindless one, I might add. Guess it does not occur to your ilk to defend your slurs against a man's character- the cheap slur suffices in your mind.<<What do you want for the working class of this country? A fallback to the robber baron days?>> I don't know exactly what you mean, and I not convinced you do. But to the extent "robber baron days" means capitalism unfettered by government regulation- except insofar as force, fraud, or the threats thereof are used- yes, I want to return to such days. You may note that during the heyday of the "robber barons", people flocked to this country from all over the world to partake of the "exploitation" by these "robber barons". Given the intellectual quality of your post to me, I frankly doubt you know very much about these men. I'd be happy to recommend some reading for your edification.<<I don't begrudge them the desire to hold on to benefits. They deserve them in my opinion. >> I don't begrudge their desire to hold on to their benefits either. If I had it, I'd like like it- but I think I understand a corporation's desire to get out of unlimited liability in that regard. Marvin referred to Boeing's desire to get out of the business of providing life medical coverage to their retirees as "screw[ing]" people. I suggest that such benefits be negotiated between businesses and their employees and that government should stay out of those negotiations. And just what makes you think they "deserve" this wonderful benefit- on what grounds do you base that opinion of yours? Are they more "deserving" than I and millions like me who don't enjoy such paternalism on the part of their employer?? Or am I to presume that I am somehow being "screwed" by my employer??? Larry