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To: phatbstrd who wrote (38806)	8/27/1999 12:22:00 PM
From: JohnG	Respond to of 152472

Phatbstrd. So True. Give the average European security and he will gladly give up his personal and economic freedom. Disgusting aren't they. Nations of peons run by hagfish who take care of them and tell them how lucky they are to have such great security. Governments involved in every aspect of their lives and licenses and regulations for everything. JohnG

To: phatbstrd who wrote (38806)	8/27/1999 6:23:00 PM
From: limtex	Respond to of 152472

ph - My Grandmother never once worried about a roof over head, a meal in her belly The Grandmothers of my Chinese friends also don't have to worry about "a meal in their bellys" (as you put it). Thats because their families all look after their elderly and wouldn't dream of poncing off the state as long as they could do a days work. That Elitism too? Lets see long term where the socialist clap trap eventually takes Sweden or Holland. Socialism is really only a thinly disguised legal form of poncing off your neighbours Best regards, L