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To: jhg_in_kc who wrote (140793)8/27/1999 5:29:00 PM
From: Brian P.  Respond to of 176387
 
Alan Greenspan: "The stock market is one element of a complex national and world economy -- I am concerned with the long-term welfare of all citizens of this nation, stock holders included, and not with the short-term gratification of those who think the stock market is their personal casino. It's better to face these issues now rather than later. If you disagree with my assessment it is incumbent on you to say why, i.e., offer an informed and rational argument."

Many of you: "The stock market is my personal casino, my daily amusement park roller coaster. I throw a temper tantrum when big, fat ol' Greenyspan says I can't go up on the ride today. I don't care what he says he's stupid! I just know he is! Waaaaaaahh!!!!"



To: jhg_in_kc who wrote (140793)8/27/1999 6:13:00 PM
From: Mike Van Winkle  Respond to of 176387
 
re: Remarks by Chairman Alan Greenspan: New challenges for monetary policy

I read very carefully the text of the speech and missed entirely what made some investors excited. There is nothing new here that I can see. My reading comprehension is not the best, I will readily admit it. I think the media has once again given the market an excuse to drop.

If there is a sentence or paragraph that is saying that the Fed will raise rates if equities go above some amount, I would appreciate it being pointed out. TIA

Cheers
Mike

PS I do not like government/ government charged group in control of the money but it is a world wide problem.



To: jhg_in_kc who wrote (140793)8/27/1999 6:50:00 PM
From: D.J.Smyth  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 176387
 
brief interpolation of Greenspan's speech:

First, the rapid shift in the composition of gross domestic product toward idea-based value added is muddying our measures of current earnings and, hence, our projections of future earnings.

i.e., Thinking about the damn rise in internet stocks (idea-based value) is ruining my time for morning coffee!

Software that is embedded in capital equipment, and some that is stand-alone, is currently being capitalized and consequently amortized against current and future earnings.

i.e., Microsoft, the company, should, at most be valued at the company's depreciation value, which, last time i checked, was around $5 a share, which includes Bill Gates' hairpiece and the toilets in their building

Indeed, there is even an argument for capitalizing new ideas, such as different ways of organizing production, that enhance the value of a firm without any associated outlays. Some analysts judge the size of undercapitalized outlays as quite large.

i.e., if I had my way, capitalizing a "new idea" would be worth absolutely $0 until that new idea produced revenue and/or at least was able to produce a nice tangible massage in some red light district

Even our most sophisticated analytic techniques have difficulty dealing with the interactions among time preference, risk aversion, and uncertainty and with the implications of these interactions for the risk premiums that are embedded in asset prices. It is our failure to anticipate changes in this discounting process that much of our inability to accurately forecast economic events lies.

i.e., We don't know what in the heck going on or where we're going

For example, the dramatic changes in information technology that have enabled businesses to embrace the techniques of just-in-time inventory management appear to have reduced that part of the business cycle that is attributable to inventory fluctuations and, accordingly, may well have been a factor in the apparent decline in equity premiums that has characterized the latter part of the 1990s.

i.e., Dell's "just in time" model was partially responsible for the stock dolldrums this summer and it's killing Compaq and screwing up our way of looking at inventory, dang it!

An individual's degree of risk aversion may vary through time and possibly be subject to herd instincts. Nonetheless, certain stable magnitudes are inferable from the process of discounting of future claims and values.

i.e, It's those dang internet Indians again. The herd instict. We need another Wounded Knee; this time we really masacre em'

Enough investors usually adopt strategies that take account of longer-run tendencies to foster the propensity for convergence toward equilibrium. But from time to time, this process has broken down as investors suffer an abrupt collapse of comprehension of, and confidence in, future economic events. It is almost as though, like a dam under mounting water pressure, confidence appears normal until the moment it is breached

i.e., especially if you wet the bed at night. It's a really, really wet breach then. And it's a real confidence killer.

Probability distributions that are estimated largely, or exclusively, over cycles excluding periods of panic will underestimate the probability of extreme price movements because they fail to capture a secondary peak at the extreme negative tail that reflects the probability of occurrence of a panic.

i.e., DANG I wish my wife had sold Dell at $49 this last time around

Moreover, it is evident that borrowings against capital gains on homes influence consumer outlays beyond the effects of gains from financial assets. Preliminary work at the Federal Reserve suggests that the extraction of equity from housing has played an important role in recent years. However, stock market values and capital gains on homes are correlated and, hence, their separate effects are difficult to identify. This is an area that clearly warrants further examination.

i.e., whose the dumb a.. that borrowed money from their home equity to invest in the stock market? stop that you idiot or I'll have to examine you further

Accordingly, we have little choice but to confront the challenges posed by these questions if we are to understand better the effect of changes in balance sheets on the economy and, hence, indirectly, on monetary policy.

i.e., And after all that I said, I STILL don't know what the frick is going on, although I'd like to indirectly better understand what you're serving for lunch here in Jackson Hole. Bottom Line: don't buy internet stocks, read balance sheets, and figure out where monetary policy is going after we figure it out ourselves.



To: jhg_in_kc who wrote (140793)8/28/1999 5:02:00 PM
From: Frank Ellis Morris  Respond to of 176387
 
>>TEXT OF WHAT THE GREEN SON OF A BITCH SAID.
Remarks by Chairman Alan Greenspan
New challenges for monetary policy
Before a symposium sponsored by the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City in
Jackson Hole, Wyoming August 27, 1999 <<

The guy is an out of control monster and steps must be taken to not only remove him from office but to have him prosecuted by the DOJ.

Frank