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To: d. alexander who wrote (23206)8/28/1999 11:30:00 PM
From: PartyTime  Respond to of 68311
 
I've just begun a new SI thread which some of you might find helpful. Please feel free to participate. Thanks.

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To: d. alexander who wrote (23206)8/29/1999 1:45:00 PM
From: d. alexander  Respond to of 68311
 
speech redux: was interested to see Barrons' A. Abelson interpret (possibly) in favor of his own cherished received ideas.

To whit (as he might put it)
from Abelson, the he being Mr. G.

he indicated less savory factors also were at work...

that even earnings have been hoked up, in some instances by capitalizing expenses, but more insidiously by disguising labor costs through the use of options as compensation instead of traditional coin


so that
the use of stock options instead of cash to pay employees may be distorting (read: understating) wage inflation.

and
Mr. Greenspan also commented on the role of leverage in kiting asset values, citing the ballooning of home equity loans

and
Any speech that makes mention of Dutch tulip bulbs can't be considered entirely favorably disposed toward the stock market. And when that phrase trips off the lips of the chairman of the Federal Reserve, it's a tad unnerving. All the more so when it's coupled with the expletive "bubble."

& from Greenspan

on capitalization

There has always been a fuzzy dividing line between what is expensed and what is capitalized. This has historically bedeviled the accounting for research and development, for example. But the major technological advances of recent years have exposed a wide swath of rapidly growing outlays that, arguably, should be capitalized so that the returns they produce would be more accurately reflected as earnings over time. Indeed, there is even an argument for capitalizing new ideas, such as different ways of organizing production, that enhance the value of a firm without any associated outlays. Some analysts judge the size of undercapitalized outlays as quite large.

Nonetheless, it is reasonable to surmise that undercapitalized expenses have been rising sufficiently faster than reported earnings to have more than offset the factors that have temporarily augmented reported earnings


on stock options

But the newer technologies, and the productivity and bull stock market they have fostered, are also accentuating some accounting difficulties that tend to bias up reported earnings. One is the apparent overestimate of earnings that occurs as a result of the distortion in the accounting for stock options. The combination of not charging their fair value against income, and the practice of periodically repricing those options that fall significantly out of the money2

2 The Financial Accounting Standards Board (FASB) will require that the cost of repricing of options be charged against income starting later this year.


on tulip bulbs

We live in what is, for the most part, a stable economic system, where market imbalances that produce unusual outcomes almost always give rise to continuous and inevitable moves back toward longer-run equilibrium. However, the violence of the responses to what seemed to be relatively mild imbalances in Southeast Asia in 1997 and throughout the global economy in August and September of 1998 has illustrated yet again that the adjustments in asset markets can be discontinuous, especially when investors hold highly leveraged positions and when views about long-term equilibria are not firmly held...

Risk aversion in such an instance rises dramatically, and deliberate trading strategies are replaced by rising fear-induced disengagement.

History tells us that sharp reversals in confidence happen abruptly, most often with little advance notice. These reversals can be self-reinforcing processes that can compress sizable adjustments into a very short time period. Panic market reactions are characterized by dramatic shifts in behavior to minimize short-term losses. Claims on far-distant future values are discounted to insignificance. What is so intriguing is that this type of behavior has characterized human interaction with little appreciable difference over the generations. Whether Dutch tulip bulbs or Russian equities, the market price patterns remain much the same.

Collapsing confidence is generally described as a bursting bubble, an event incontrovertibly evident only in retrospect.




To: d. alexander who wrote (23206)8/29/1999 5:43:00 PM
From: Clint E.  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 68311
 
Hi Dorothy.

No, I didn't go fishing. I usually see my wife only during weekends so I leave all stocks-related work for Sunday afternoon after she leaves.

Hey, you really got hooked on Greenspan this weekend.

On redundancy, see his previous speech:
bog.frb.fed.us
and copy/paste of these two paragraphs in his new speech:
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Risk aversion accordingly rises dramatically and deliberative trading strategies are replaced by rising fear-induced disengagement. Yield spreads on relatively risky assets widen dramatically. In the more extreme manifestation, the inability to differentiate among degrees of risk drives trading strategies to ever more liquid instruments. Strategies become so tentative that traders want the capacity to reverse decisions at minimum cost. As a consequence, even among riskless assets, illiquidity premiums rise dramatically as investors seek the heavily traded "on-the-run" issues.
History tells us that sharp reversals in confidence happen abruptly, most often with little advance notice. They are self-reinforcing processes that can compress into a very short time period. Panic market reactions are characterized by a dramatic shift to maximize short term value, and are an extension of human behavior that manifests itself in all forms of human interaction--a set of responses that does not seem to have changed over the generations. I defy anyone to distinguish a speculative price pattern for 1999 from one for 1899 if the charts specify neither the dates nor the levels of the prices.

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You can find most of his speeches at:
woodrow.mpls.frb.fed.us

He likes to use jargons like “risk aversion”(preferring a less risky income source, for example bonds vs. stocks), “time preference”(used in models to calculate options pricing for currencies, stocks, etc).

He also likes twisting things:
“”””The value ascribed to any asset is a discounted value of future expected returns, even if no market participant consciously makes that calculation.”””””

Sort of saying that in our irrational exuberance, we are chasing after stocks without even caring to calculate their future potential.

His comments on stocks options and what should be expensed vs. capitalized has been discussed before. Some tech companies rely on their rich stock prices to hire talented individuals. If you go to work for CSCO, they give you a standard salary plus options to a few hundred shares of CSCO at ~1/3 stock price. That way you cost much less to CSCO, while within a year you can turn around and sell the stock and double your salary.

The issue about capitalized software costs, the way I think it works is that until a product is still in R&D phase, all purchased software is expensed. Once the product moves into production, software production costs are capitalized. Most companies, if they could, they would love to expense everything they buy. Why not? Think about it. Who likes to pay cash(or borrow money) and buy a computer today but be able to deduct only a portion of that cost this year and the rest within the next few years?

Re balance sheet, I know that top-line is what is reported at the top of the form as revenue and bottom line is what is reported at the bottom as earnings per share!!!!! Joking aside, a few months ago I saw a good book in Barnes & Noble but I don't remember its name. You may want to go over there and look.

Check these out too at AMZN:

amazon.com

Good Trading

Clint