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To: Michael F. Donadio who wrote (18985)	8/28/1999 4:58:00 PM
From: JC Jaros	Respond to of 64865

DOJ to M$: Are you SURE the browser is integrated with the operating system? M$: Yes, we're quite sure. We call it 'innovation'. :) -JCJ

To: Michael F. Donadio who wrote (18985)	8/30/1999 3:04:00 PM
From: cheryl williamson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

Michael, I think we're witnessing the limits of market-driven technology companies, epitomized by M$FT. We've discussed this again and again over the last couple of years on this thread, but it bears repeating: great companies are driven by great ideas and great execution, neither of which are descriptive of M$FT. They have become so full of themselves when it comes to marketing, that they think marketing, contracts, and general-purpose skullduggery can fix real deficiencies in their products, so that the company can continue to prosper while peddling their slopware. Gates and company are clearly too stupid to realize it, but their bleating and posturing in front of the Justice Department about having the "right to innovate" by placing IE inside the O/S, is so laughable because it betrays the bias and ultimate failings of the entire enterprise unbeknownst to the founding partners and their lawyers. Someone asked Bill Joy years ago about M$FT's prospects for taking control of the world. Bill didn't think it would ever happen, and in fact talked about their demise. Why??? Among other things, front and center was: lack of an effective security model. I, personally, can't think of a grosser violation of security than to place applications software inside an O/S. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that that is a bad idea, and I can't imagine that the engineers in Redmond didn't think of it. But, once again, marketing required the integration because of their fear of NSCP, and the need to gain ground in the internet market. Well, like the old saying goes: you reap what you sow, and now M$FT is beginning to pay the price, as they will continue to do for the foreseeable future... cheers, cherylw