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To: Chas who wrote (47873)8/29/1999 1:07:00 PM
From: Thomas G. Busillo  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 53903
 
Chas, Whittington just as I expected him!

"Pricing which has jumped of late in excess of $8 in the broker (spot) market provides impetus for contract prices well above $6 this fall. At$6, the only fully profitable producer is Micron. At $7, add Samsung. At $8, add Hyundai but not LG. At$9, add Siemens, Toshiba and NEC but not Hitachi, Mitsubishi or Fujitsu. Get the picture?"

You gotta love a guy who actively spits out condescending venom in his "research".

Well, sporto, I do get the picture.

However, that's like looking at the movie listings to find out what's on TV.

The goal of the business enterprise is not to loss less money than competitors or earn more money than competitors.

The goal of the business enterprise is to earn return on invested capital above the cost of capital.

A firm that continues to earn a return on invested capital below its cost of capital is detroying value.

Get the picture?

So my question for Whittington comes in two parts:

1) When will the spread between MU's ROIC and WACC turn positive?
2) What is your estimation of this period's duration?

I guess when you base everything on the accounting model those types of questions don't matter. The only thing that matters is earnings.

So, no, Whittington II, my friend, I get the picture alright. I get your picture and the pictures of your peers.

I guess I had expected those pictures to resemble Monet's, Manet's, and Cezanne's.

Unfortunatley, having seen a few over time, they seem to resemble those of the fluxus movement, in which certain bodily fluids are secreted and "worked" to produce art.

I want The Great Bathers and all I'm seeing is Piss Christ.

Good trading,

Tom



To: Chas who wrote (47873)8/29/1999 1:32:00 PM
From: Bharat H. Barai  Respond to of 53903
 
DRAM spot price up to $ 8.25 in Taiwan on Friday. OEM contract prices moving to $ 6-6.50. Inventory levels are very low to none. Next month's production getting sold out in advance.

How long will tightness in DRAM continue? Don't know. Latin America PC sales up 19%, Asia PC sales up 34%, Europe climbing. They all need DRAM. Conversion to 0.18 continuing at Micron. Most Japanese are not spending for such upgrade but are switching to Taiwanese manufacturers.

DRAM situation could be interesting Q 3 and 4, depending on PC sales volume all over the world.All DRAM manufacturers are smarting from losses of last few years and eager to see their day.

Stay tuned !!



To: Chas who wrote (47873)8/29/1999 1:47:00 PM
From: Skeeter Bug  Respond to of 53903
 
chas, you quote $17 whittington as an authority? and you don't mention his name? i can understand why. ho ho ho ho ho! ;-)

you probably still believe clinton didn't inhale ;-)

i would also point out that nobody knows what inventory levels are at various companies. the last time mu tried to say inventory levels were low at korean mfrs, they were dead wrong. they even admitted that they didn't know in their 10q.