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To: cicak who wrote (34194)	8/29/1999 11:11:00 PM
From: secureit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 44908

OT Interesting post from RB on shorting/bashing techniques. By: doribee88 Reply To: None Sunday, 29 Aug 1999 at 9:36 PM EDT Post # of 4621 Food for Thought: Message board guidelines used by shorters. 1. Be anonymous, of course. 2. Use 10% fact and 90% suggestion in one's posts. Facts give credibility, while suggestion does the sell. 3. ULet others "help" you learn about a stock therby developing rapport and a support base. 4. Use multiple handles, but develop a unique style for each. 5. Use multiple ISPs. 6. Start each new handle slowly to build acceptance. 7. Occasionally, use two handles to "discuss" an issue. 8. Do not show all your cards at once when slamming a stock. It's a war - it's ok to lose a battle as long as you save enough ammo to win the war. 9. Know your enemies - they will end up being your best weapons. 10. Only slam until the tide starts to turn. Let doubt carry the stock back with the tide. 11. Maintain an appearance of being open minded but a slant in either direction is acceptable. 12. Don't appear meek. No one follows the meek. 13. Strike just as your opponent starts to gather momentum but not before or you lose the sting. 14. Don't worry if people peg you for a slammer. The doubt will remain and that's what you are after. 15. If pegged, put up a brief fight, then let them feel they've won. This puts their guard down within a few days and your other handles can take over from there. 16. When slamming a stock, the intent is to minimize its rise, not create an instant plunge. 17. To slam a stock requires you only to kill the dream not the company. 18. Use questions to invoke critical thinking and use statements to reinforce. 19. You can be liberal in your questions but be specific and precise in your statements. 20. Don't lie. 21. When slamming, encourage research beyond calling the company. You know people are far too lazy and it's only doubt you are after, not confirmation. 22. When slamming, discourage people from taking the company's word - encourage them to seek outside proof. 23. When slamming, refer to missed deadlines and weak financials 24. When slamming, if the price rises, blame it on temporary mass reaction to a press release rather than real interest in the stock. Point out low volume and emphasize the selling. 25. Pretend to share the same concerns by learning what they want to hear. 26. And above all else, be unpredictable.

To: cicak who wrote (34194)	8/29/1999 11:26:00 PM
From: Zeev Hed	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 44908

No, Phillip, I believe that it is you that still do not understand. In order to have tax liabilities, you have to have profits, a VC will not invest in a management that has no history whatsoever of bringing profits to the bottom line, thus tax incentives availability (for state taxes, which are much smaller than federal or national taxes in other countries offering tax incentives and keeping the company free of all income taxes for some 7 years) is of very minute significance. History of management and proven track record of bringing profits to the bottom line will be more than 50% of the investment decision of a VC, 40% would be the potential market, the technology and particularly, barriers to competitive entry. The last 10% would be location, and depending on the type of business contemplated that might include any or all of the following, taxes, availability of "labor", availability of transportation and infrastructure, proximity to end markets, and prevailing regulatory conditions (the latter, in some cases may even have a weight of 25%). In the case before us, and I presume you brought the tax issue relative to the speculation that TSIG might have access to VC money, they fail miserably on the first hurdle, and they also fail on the "barriers to entry", since after all, according to our experts on this thread, it will require no more cash than the about $1 MM already spent on LL to start a competing "card" business for charitable purposes. That is indeed a very low barrier to competitive entry. Zeev