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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (168)	8/30/1999 9:40:00 AM
From: long-gone	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1449

<<Horiuchi and his ilk are creatures of the modern state. As time goes on I'm afraid we'll create more of them.>> And after viewing McVay's evil, "we" are creating them on both sides.

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (168)	8/30/1999 10:21:00 AM
From: Jeff Mizer	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1449

>>The guy who was willing to fix his sights and pull the trigger on a woman holding her baby goes home every night and plays with his own baby. Horiuchi and his ilk<< It sure would have restored my faith in people and the system had Horuchi been imprisoned for murder. Anyone who has ever hunted with a rifle and high-powered scope knows Horuchi knew exactly what he was shooting at-unarmed woman w/baby-- he would have been able to see the color of her eyes-- he is a cold blooded murderer - JM

To: Tom Clarke who wrote (168)	8/30/1999 12:52:00 PM
From: Bob Lao-Tse	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1449

"...the banality of evil." Too true. Those who gassed the Jews were for the most part not consciously evil; they were casually evil and had no awareness that they were so and probably would never have even considered the question, and that is frightening. This is what I'm talking about when I speak of the culture the power-mongers surround themselves with. By cultivating this sort of banal evil, they accomplish many things: They set us against each other; They always have someone to do the dirty work; They always have someone to blame; And they, through all of this, ensure the furtherance of their own quest for power. Perhaps thankfully though, they also ensure their own doom. A civilization that goes down this path will always eventually kill itself, and the base for their power will vanish, and like Mussolini they'll end up swinging from a lamp post. That doesn't make it any more pleasant for us though.