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To: Mike Gold who wrote (18543)8/30/1999 9:53:00 AM
From: john  Respond to of 25548
 
Frankly, I am more interested in moving forward with one of the potential majors that have entered into non disclosure. Good news from that front will take care of any and all shorts



To: Mike Gold who wrote (18543)8/30/1999 10:04:00 AM
From: Babe' Boua  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 25548
 
Thank you Mike!!!

Has anyone here received or know of the delivery of MGLD CERTS to other shareholders from the following brokerage houses???

Schwab?
Ameritrade?
National Discount Brokers?

As of this date, I have not received a single cert from any one of these three firms.

babe'



To: Mike Gold who wrote (18543)8/30/1999 10:40:00 AM
From: Moosie  Respond to of 25548
 
Gold less tarnished than it seems Latest fall simply a bear squeeze in the making

Patrick Bloomfield
National Post

Don't write off gold quite yet -- for two good reasons.

The first is that buying any investment that everybody else loves to
hate can eventually be an effective means of making money.

The second is that no market is exactly what it appears to be on the
surface. CIBC World Markets economist Jeffrey Rubin may have
been quoted in this column recently that central banks hold the
equivalent of 12 years of global gold output and some are willing
sellers.

But how much of that gold is readily available for delivery, free of
paper claims against it? If there is far from enough to meet market
circumstances at any time, you have a bear squeeze.

For this thought I am indebted to Doug Pollitt, of Toronto Stock
Exchange member firm Pollitt & Co. Inc., for sending me, not only
his thoughts on this potential, but those of John Hathaway, the fund
manager of New York-based Toqueville Asset Management
Limited Partnership.

As Mr. Hathaway sets out in a piece called "Anatomy of a Bear
Trap," there was once a time when the relationship of gold to paper
assets was in the form of a pyramid, being currencies issued by
governments, backed by physical gold held by the central banks.

That relationship has long since been abandoned, and replaced in
recent years by a currency/gold pyramid that is much less stable.

Mr. Hathaway stresses that there are few published figures for the
new pyramid, no reserve requirement, no supervision or regulation
and no accountability. It is the private domain of bullion dealers,
central bankers and mining companies. Its creditworthiness, says
Mr. Hathaway, can only be an educated guess and his guess is that
it is bankrupt.

In his view, it has become a trap from which few short sellers will
escape, because "paper claims in the form of derivatives far exceed
the physical metal on which they are based."

As Mr. Hathaway sees it, there is the paradox that the further the
gold price falls, the stronger the consumer demand, which has
already been rising, and the greater the pressure on the availability
of gold for immediate delivery.

In his view, central bank and official sector selling represents only a
"small percentage of the excess supply of gold." Far more
meaningful, but much less publicized, has been the selling pressure
from gold borrowed or leased from central banks, and resold for
the accounts of mining companies or financial institutions.

Central bankers apparently report leased gold as "gold receivable"
and lump it together with gold on hand. In his view, much of this
borrowed gold has already been melted down and sold into the
physical markets, and no longer exists in physical and deliverable
form. "Aided by poor information and worse governance, physical
gold borrowed from the central banks has been sold over and over
again in multiple transactions."

Mr. Hathaway suggests that the "short-cover" ratio rivals the most
overvalued Internet shares.

He talks of a 6,000 ton to 10,000 ton physical short interest. As at
year-end 1998, 3,600 tons had been sold short by mining
companies against future production, possibly 1,500 to 2,000 tons
would be payables of jewellery fabricators, and the 1,000-ton to
3,000-ton balance speaks for speculative positions held by
commodity funds, hedge funds and financial institutions.

The mining companies' role speaks for a further paradox. The more
the price falls, the lower the value of producers' reserves (against
which they have sold forward) and the lesser the creditworthiness of
their forward sales.

Mr. Hathaway makes a convincing case for an aggregate short
position that, in his view, represents $40-billion to $80-billion (all
figures in U.S. dollars) of capital at risk. Thus, a short covering rally
of $50 to $100 an ounce (which he clearly regards as possible)
would cost $8-billion to $16-billion.

I have to admit to knowing dangerously little about the bullion
market. But I have witnessed my share of bear squeezes. They can
be powerful price propellants.

Come any significant increase in financial market tensions, which
have already sent gold lease rates upward (and thus eroded gold's
role as a source of cheap finance), a further sharp rise in lease rates
could wipe out the profitable spread that has helped propel gold
prices lower.



To: Mike Gold who wrote (18543)8/30/1999 11:14:00 PM
From: Gary Jacobs  Respond to of 25548
 
Our long, long wait is nearly at an end.

that would be most excellent. i've never been a very good waiter

gary