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To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (70568)	9/1/1999 12:20:00 PM
From: RDM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576348

< Message #70568 from Pravin Kamdar at Sep 1 1999 4:24AM The cs44e7 sounds pretty much like a 0.18 micron process without the density > The process still has the capacitance of a .25 micron process. (And of course the die per wafer of .25).

To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (70568)	9/1/1999 12:32:00 PM
From: kash johal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576348

Pravin, Re: 0.18 performance i agree with u. AMD is pushing the performance to 0.18 microns in half steps. This way the kinks are worked out earlier. Clearly they front end is the big issue and they seem to have that well under control. Then the dies shrik will happen and Q4 for real 0.18 volumes seems doable for K7's to me. So costs will plummet and volume will ramp rapidly. As far as speed grades, yes AMD may get to 800Mhz with the Al 0.18 process but I except that to be the limit. With Cu and more speed work 1Ghz is realistically on the cards for Q1/Q2 2000. This should easily match/exceed the very best that Intel can possibly do IMHO on clcok speed and the Athlon is higher performance per clock as we know. So I guess that is not bad news at all. If u were expecting 1Ghz with Al/0.18 out of Fab 25 in Q4 99 u will be dissapointed. But the key here is that the risk of 0.18 is minimized. I now except they will run a cs44e7 front end with a true 0.18 back end for dies size reduction. And then tweak the front end for Q1/Q2 2000 to hit the 1Ghz mark. regards, Kash