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Technology Stocks : 2000: Y2K Civilized Discussion -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (503)	9/1/1999 10:39:00 PM
From: Christine Traut	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 662

Ron: My Microsoft information is informed rumor. I have no reason to believe that either Win 95 or 98 will do anything so dramatic as abend. But one of my favorite pieces of wisdom from the IEEE Congressional testimony is that you are -- lucky! -- if your software actually stops working. Then you know that you have a Y2K problem. I very much doubt that even MSFT knows whether the Y2K problems in Win 95 and 98, coupled with the almost infinite ways that application programs can interact, would cause an abend or failure. I've had MSFT people tell me not to apply patches until December, which makes me think that they are still finding bugs in the operating systems. Just how likely does it then become that companies like Intuit (Quicken) could thoroughly test their software on the final Y2K compliant versions of 95 and 98. This puts Microsoft right in the middle of the giant crapshoot that is Y2K. I'm not putting all of my eggs in one basket. I expect that my Microsoft software will work. But I'm having Netscape running on Linux just in case. I know that that is Y2K compliant. Christine P.S. Notice that I failed to mention Windows NT under 'things which Christine has no reason to believe will cause abends'?

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (503)	9/2/1999 6:15:00 PM
From: flatsville	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 662

I just dropped a line to they guy who posted this to csy2k with the text of Fielder's reply to you confirming that he was quoted by Scary Gary accurately. <ggg> >>>I thought I recognized the writing syle and general cluelessness, it's GN. garynorth.com I have used Feidler's product, Check2000, in it's Japanese version so I know that a couple hundred desktops in Japan ARE being remediated. I'm not sure if a lot of organizations are doing Feidler's five levels including Excel data content [e.g. the notorious DATE() function] as well as 'cut & paste' problems, but they certainly have checked their hardware, bios, and version of Microsoft products. I'm not knocking Karl, I like his product, but his press release IS an advertisement. The posting TITLE and the "quotes" that appear to be attributed to Feidler are not found in his press release. Only Gary North "fact" number 2 could be based on the release. The rest are fabrication, fantasy, or come from some other article GN "forgot" to mention. Berlin???? BTW: Since I am still looking for real leading edge Y2K failures, I checked GN's categories. He doesn't have one for ACTUAL failures. Isn't that odd? -- White, wheat, or raisin? Henry Ahlgrim<<< ***************************************************************** Hope for the best; prepare for the probable. *************************************************************** Fact is above; fiction is here---> www2.gol.com *****************************************************************