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To: epicure who wrote (54013)	9/1/1999 7:36:00 PM
From: Sidney Reilly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I see when you're wrong you prefer to call names.

To: epicure who wrote (54013)	9/1/1999 7:52:00 PM
From: Ish	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

<<And you learned this how, exactly? Let's see- woman murdered on porch- I am guessing tax resistor was involved? Perhaps a standoff? But hey, I don't know the circumstances>> I learned from the NRA, papers and the net. Randy Weaver had done drug time. The FBI wanted him to get back into the life and he refused. He was living a life where he shot (legally) and grew his food. They sent a guy in to buy a sawed off shotgun which was later found in federal court to be legal. The Feds used that to attack the house. The first attack was his son taking the dog rabbit hunting. The dog barked at a FBI agent and the teenager shot the agent who killed his dog. The boy was gunned down by FBI agents. Randy Weaver was wounded but the worst was his wife. She was breast feeding her baby and was shot in the head and killed in her home. Relate that to the breast feeding in public.

To: epicure who wrote (54013)	9/1/1999 10:14:00 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Let's see- woman murdered on porch- I am guessing tax resistor was involved? Perhaps a standoff? Let's not forget that he was found not guilty, and he was as I recall unarmed when his wife was shot. She, unfortunately, didn't get the opportunity to stand trial for anything. The death penalty was meted out to her. One of the reasons that conspiracy mania flourishes is that the FBI has never admitted that they were wrong in any of these cases, has never apologized to anybody, but claims that they were perfectly in the right. They have been proven to lie on at least one major point, Randy Weaver was found not guilty but his wife is dead anyhow, and yet the FBI claims they did everything right. If that's right acting by law enforcement, something major is wrong. It's because they lie and conceal that conspiracy theorists can make the hay they do, because once you lie about something, then it's a lot easier to get people to believe that you lie about other things. If the FBI were upfront and honest, if they admitted when they made mistakes, if they were candid with their bosses (us -- remember the concept of government of, by, and for the people?), then conspiracy theorists would have a much harder time getting the attention they do.