UPDATE!! The ever-evolving story of AZNT's delinquent financials:
On 12 March, Mike Sylver writes a Letter to the Shareholders, in which he notes:
The auditors are well underway in the auditing of our records and Books for completion of the 10K for year ending December 31, 1998.
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But of course no financials appeared at the end of March. Why not?
ITEM 4. CHANGE IN REGISTRANT'S CERTIFYING ACCOUNTANT.
In February of 1999, Amazon Natural Treasures, Inc. ("the Company") decided to change auditors due to the fact that the prior auditor is still due compensation from the previous audit and would lack independence. The SEC and the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants with regards to conducting an audit and issuing an audit report do not deem the prior auditors independent. The Company's management and financial direction set for the Company and its Shareholders have deemed the change of auditors to be an appropriate decision.
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Though the company had filed for a two-week extension, that deadline came and went… For several months Pugs occasionally assured everyone that their appearance was imminent, or, rather confusingly, that the SEC understood and approved the delay in filing:
By: Pugs
Reply To: 1581 by Jugs
Thursday, 15 Jul 1999 at 12:11 PM EDT
Post # of 1586
…The 10k will be out this month, but the SEC is aware of the federal case and has taken that into consideration in the delay in filing. 10b-5 is applicable in the federal case and the default was entered Jan. 13th, do the math…
ragingbull.com
Well, the end of July arrived. Now what? Looks as if the SEC isn't as sympathetic as Pugs would have had us believe:
08/06/1999 AZNT** AZNTE Amazon Natural Treasures Inc
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Pugs attempts damage control:
By: Pugs
Reply To: 3 by Nineiron
Monday, 2 Aug 1999 at 6:40 PM EDT
Post # of 31
…Call Louise over at AZNT, they will file before the deadline even if they trade as AZNTE for little while. Dude, between you & me I can guaruntee the issue will be resolved very shortly (HINT) LOL....
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Kuhns assures us that the audit is nearly finished. Wonder where he got the idea that there are 10,000 non-reporting or delinquent OTCBB companies?
By: Nineiron
Reply To: 3133 by panchovilla
Tuesday, 3 Aug 1999 at 8:05 PM EDT
Post # of 3150
What a group of speculating bashers you guys are. First off, the auditor is finishing the 10K as we speak. Secondly, the auditor was never fired as you bashers claim. Janice knows better than to say AZNT will get delisted. And you can trust that Mr. Sylver will never allow AZNT to get delisted. CarlW just blew it, libel, libel, libel.
There's over 10,000 companies trying to be compliant with the new OTCBB requirements. Try and understand that laying out $22,000 for an audit isn't what most companies find easy. I suspect you'll be seeing most of these companies complying in the last 30 days. According to the bashers, all these companies are scams.LOLOLOL
So, where will you turn your energy to when AZNT files the 10k? Got anymore ugly deceptive ideas ready to attack with?
Like I said, the auditor is wrapping up the financial's as you bash claiming he's fired. What a bunch of pathetic liars you scumbags are. It's pretty obvious your sources for factual information have all dried up and blown away.
Keep on libeling AZNT, the lawyers are having a field day!!
9iron
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Pugs is even more confident that we'll see those numbers SOON!!
By: Pugs
Reply To: 51 by Nineiron
Wednesday, 4 Aug 1999 at 12:27 AM EDT
Post # of 66
…..Oh, auditor's were paid, they're shooting for the 15th "probably sooner" for the audited financials..... now if only the judge would be so cooperative!
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Uh-oh. Maybe he was….wrong. Looks as if we're shooting for the 25th now. Does anyone yet know who the auditors are?
By: Pugs
Reply To: 3439 by sixgunn
Tuesday, 10 Aug 1999 at 9:29 PM EDT
Post # of 3441
in fact, I made a call earlier for a status report on the K & Q's. They are trying for the 15th, it may take as long as the 25th, but that's as long as they see it going. The 15th is the goal...but, as far as I'm concerned, as long as they meet the deadline. The auditors said they would.
Pugs
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Ooops, the story mutates once again. Now we're back to the 16th…
By: Pugs
Reply To: 3487 by hogger
Wednesday, 11 Aug 1999 at 3:49 PM EDT
Post # of 3493
'Hog,
do me a favor, ignore Shell & her desperate shorting buddies, ok? I just talked the fine folks over at AZNT, the auditor will be their monday to sign-off on the 10K. The Q's are being completed . If all goes well it should be filed the 16th, enter the system around the 17th and the 'E' will be dropped by Friday, if all goes well. At least we know the time-table the company is working on. The judge finished his other trial & we hope he remedies the federal case for AZNT. Things are moving along nicely. I have just one request, NO MORE REFFERALS or interaction with Shell & co.., ok?
Pugs
ragingbull.com
Poor Pugs. Wrong yet again…but he still doesn't Get It. Never will, I'll wager.
By: Pugs
Reply To: 3747 by Riley+G.
Tuesday, 17 Aug 1999 at 7:26 PM EDT
Post # of 3748
G',
good post! I just confirmed with AZNT, financials before the 25th, Q's too!
Pugs
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Well, it's the 24th and no numbers….
By: Nineiron
Reply To: 4091 by CarlW
Tuesday, 24 Aug 1999 at 1:44 PM EDT
Post # of 4096
…Financials out this week and Judgements the following week, rock and roll time the shareholders!!
9iron
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The 25th has arrived, and Pugs has some new advice for those interested in the financials:
By: Pugs
Reply To: 4139 by lamp14
Wednesday, 25 Aug 1999 at 10:54 AM EDT
Post # of 4145
702 795 4333
Ask for Lorraine, then tell us what you hear.
Pugs
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Thursday morning was a hoot. Late Wednesday at RB, CarlW made two posts. In the first he announced: "THE 10K IS OUT!!!!", in the post immediately following, he said, "oops, wrong company". Incredibly, the Stooges managed to read only the initial message, and spent hours the next morning giving each other cyber high-fives. Finally Carl himself reappeared and attempted to explain. Didn't work: Pugs Called the Company and got what he interpreted as confirmation of Carl's joke post:
By: Pugs
Reply To: 4164 by sixgunn
Thursday, 26 Aug 1999 at 1:06 PM EDT
Post # of 4199
'don't thank me, thank Carl. I called AZNT, they said they hope to file it today & it takes around 24 hrs to show up on Edgar, I hope they're successful & thanks Carl!
Pugs
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Much hilarity ensued, and later in the day Pugs felt it incumbent on him to enlarge upon his earlier post:
By: Pugs
Reply To: 4197 by hogger
Thursday, 26 Aug 1999 at 4:11 PM EDT
Post # of 4213
'Hog,
I made the call. I was told its in the auditors' hands, they feel they should have it filed & on Edgar in 24 hrs. Regardless, the only ones having a 'fred' is the unemployed vigilante mercenary Shell & her band of bashing goons. I hope all is well Hog' ! PEACEOUT!
Pugs
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Well, that didn't happen, did it? Nothing on Friday. Naturally, many questions were asked. Pugs became coy:
By: Pugs
Reply To: 4320 by CuriousLurker
Saturday, 28 Aug 1999 at 2:28 PM EDT
Post # of 4323
…Secondly, the company will have the financials out, if you'd call you'd see what the delays were all about.But you won't do that will ya' CL?…
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Bet that was "direct from Mike Sylver"!!! Feeling the heat, Pugs attempts to strike back:
By: Pugs
Reply To: 4323 by JaniceShell
Saturday, 28 Aug 1999 at 3:01 PM EDT
Post # of 4326
…AZNT is fine & the financials will be filed…AZNT will meet the deadline.
Pugs
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By Sunday he was saying the following. But is "tomorrow" in this case like all those other "tomorrows"? Moreover, does it have anything to do with Pugs's concept of "immediately" as expounded last fall in connection with the "imminent return" of the "stold" shares?
By: Pugs
Reply To: 4358 by JaniceShell
Sunday, 29 Aug 1999 at 1:12 PM EDT
Post # of 4361
Tommorows' another day Shell. AZNT will shove the financials down your throat.
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Has Kuhns been doing too much Super G?
By: Nineiron
Reply To: None
Monday, 30 Aug 1999 at 12:47 PM EDT
Post # of 4500
BTW, the financial's will be filed today! I guess Carl was off a couple of days. At least Carl knew they were coming, unlike Shell, of course. Once again, Janice proves she knows didly when it comes to AZNT!!
ragingbull.com
Kuhns appears really to believe in this fairy tale.
By: Nineiron
Reply To: 4487 by DeanDumont
Monday, 30 Aug 1999 at 1:20 PM EDT
Post # of 4503
…I'm saying they will be filed today and be fully compliant. The "e" will be removed in a couple of days. This Thursday the judge will make a ruling. Looks like a great week for AZNT!!
9iron
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Evidently Lorraine's not chummy with just anyone:
By: DeanDumont
Reply To: 4489 by Pugs
Monday, 30 Aug 1999 at 1:53 PM EDT
Post # of 4503
"Call Lorraine at the company she'll tell you everything"
Well, I guess thats another falsity. I know of an AZNT shareholder who reads these boards and called Lorraine, and well, he was TOLD absolutely NOTHING!
This person was totally stonewalled. So, I guess the only individual that can get information is you.
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Pugs announces triumphantly that the financials have been filed at last:
By: Pugs
Reply To: 4502 by sixgunn
Monday, 30 Aug 1999 at 4:35 PM EDT
Post # of 4521
'6, all,
The financials were just filed. I don't know how long it takes once they have been entered into the system before they show up on Edgar, so, keep an eye out!
Pugs
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WetWerk/TG called the company, and when he said that Pugs was telling everyone the financials had been filed, was passed to Mike Sylver:
By: WetWerk
Reply To: 4550 by Nineiron
Monday, 30 Aug 1999 at 8:22 PM EDT
Post # of 5399
I am not original. Mike Sylver gave me this number for the financial release. 0000844055.99000012
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Oops again. By Tuesday morning, still no financials.
By: Pugs
Reply To: 4579 by STOCKPROXY
Tuesday, 31 Aug 1999 at 10:18 AM EDT
Post # of 4645
…As for the financals, they were entered into the Edgar system yesterday @ 5:13PM EST, the Q's will be entered before the deadline as well according to the folks at AZNT. They are well aware of the deadlines & what must be done. The number TideGlider posted was the acession # showing it was , in fact, filed on time. I thought AZNT was hanging up on everyone, It seems even an old basher like our NJ Investigator can get this TOP SECRET INSIDER INFO by a phone call! LOL
What maroons!…
ragingbull.com
Well, that K wasn't anywhere to be found. Pugs Called the Company and asked about it:
By: Pugs
Reply To: 4634 by William_Wallace
Tuesday, 31 Aug 1999 at 11:14 AM EDT
Post # of 4658
WW,
'just letting shareholders know that the 10k was recieved to the Edgar Live Filing System @ "05:13 PM EST on August 30, 1999 ( according to the confirmation, accession # 0000844055-99-000012 ). Q's are being entered today. The accountant is calling the SEC to see when they'll show up on Edgar.
Pugs
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Pugs offers an "explanation":
By: Pugs
Reply To: 4641 by Nineiron
Tuesday, 31 Aug 1999 at 11:36 AM EDT
Post # of 4661
9,
forget zonkie, he's another rah-rah drool-case. I made the calls. Here's the scoop. The delay in showing up on Edgar is due to errors from the computer inputter. It is being re-entered as we speak. There is no penalty for having to re-enter it. The filings are on time. They DO NOT have to be approved ( AZNT is a reporting co. ). The errors were due to an 'asterik'(sp?) system filing error by the inputter. The SEC requests re-entering which should be completed in 1 hr. The Q's are being filed too.
Pugs
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Riley expresses scepticism; Pugs reassures him:
By: Pugs
Reply To: 4688 by Riley+G.
Tuesday, 31 Aug 1999 at 2:28 PM EDT
Post # of 4705
'G
Its' frustrating that the auditor had inputting problems, but they're doing their best to have it entered TODAY, including the Q's. Hang in there G'! LOL
Pugs
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Finally, in midafternoon, one of the Qs is filed; the one for the quarter ending June 30.
By: William_Wallace
Reply To: 4708 by panchovilla Tuesday, 31 Aug 1999 at 3:36 PM EDT Post # of 5399
ONE OF THE 10Q'S IS FILED! more on the way! ONE 10K AND ANOTHER 10Q! JUST WATCH EDGAR
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Filings&Directory=844055&Year=99&SECIndex=22&Extension=.tst&PathFlag=4
&TextFileSize=43472&CIK=844055&DateFiled=8/31/99&UseFrame=1&OEMSource=
&FormType=10QSB&CompanyName=AMAZON+NATURAL+TREASURES+INC
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Pugs once again explains the delays:
By: Pugs
Reply To: 4706 by JaniceShell
Tuesday, 31 Aug 1999 at 3:41 PM EDT
Post # of 4758
no, in fact they're very experienced. It'll be finished before the deadline, the Q's were entered first, the K next. The auditor had to wait for a return call from the SEC to clarify what the input problem was. They're on it Shell, then you could switch gears you old goat and staRT bashing the Q's & K.
Pugs
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At 5:20 p.m., the second Q hits Edgar.
By: William_Wallace
Reply To: 4750 by DeanDumont Tuesday, 31 Aug 1999 at 5:20 PM EDT Post # of 5399
THE SECOND 10Q IS OUT!
freeedgar.com
Filings&Directory=844055&Year=99&SECIndex=22&Extension=.tst&PathFlag=4
&TextFileSize=43472&CIK=844055&DateFiled=8/31/99&UseFrame=1&OEMSource=
&FormType=10QSB&CompanyName=AMAZON+NATURAL+TREASURES+INC
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But what's this? Seems the two Qs are identical, except for the dates.
By: DeanDumont
Reply To: 4779 by William_Wallace
Tuesday, 31 Aug 1999 at 5:38 PM EDT
Post # of 5399
its the same filing. Read the numbers. They are exactly the same.
ragingbull.com
Hours later, the 10K finally appears.
To: tonto (23734 )
From: Arcane Lore
Wednesday, Sep 1 1999 8:11AM ET
Reply # of 23826
1998 10-K is now available on FreeEdgar at:
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Message 11126228
The OTCBB confirms that AZNT is compliant.
By: William_Wallace
Reply To: 4990 by DeanDumont
Wednesday, 1 Sep 1999 at 10:50 AM EDT
Post # of 5400
Here's a confirmation from the OTCBB NASD. AZNT WILL NOT GET DELISTED. PERIOD!
So good luck to the bashers. It's SHOWTIME!
ragingbull.com
But then the OTCBB and the SEC take another look at those filings.
AZNTE NOT Compliant: Will Be Deleted on 9/2
*PLEASE HAND DELIVER IMMEDIATELY*
THE FOLLOWING SECURITY HAS NOT BECOME COMPLIANT WITH NASD RULE 6530 AND WILL BE DELETED EFFECTIVE 9/2/1999:
AZNTE** Amazon Natural Treasures Inc
THE SYMBOL CHANGE TO REMOVE THE "E" WILL OCCUR AS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED
EFFECTIVE 9/2/1999.
ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE CONTACT MARKET INTEGRITY AT (203)375-9609
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And indeed, on the second, HELLOOOOOO Pink Sheets!
Notes
The following company did not become compliant and was deleted as originally scheduled on 9/2/1999: AZNTE/ Amazon Natural Treasures Inc.The symbol change to remove the "E" from BISAE and AZNTE became eff on 9/2/1999 as announced on the list of 8/31/1999.
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And so ends another chapter in this sorry tale of lies, promises, and incompetence. What next?
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