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Pastimes : The Truth about Waco -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: gao seng who wrote (515)	9/4/1999 8:20:00 PM
From: James F. Hopkins	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1449

Gao; In that news article there is at least one mistake it could be just a typo..but that's the way so much about Waco gets confused, ---------- RE Texas Rangers began uncovering evidence that pyrotechnic tear-gas rounds were used by the FBI almost a month before the latest disclosures. The Rangers were brought in when the Branch Davidian standoff began, and they were asked by the Justice Department to keep all of the key evidence from the resulting criminal investigations and trials. ------------------------------------ Standoff Began is wrong..The Rangers came in only after the fire and when the official ( so called ) investigation began. They were not allowed in during the stand off even the Governor of Texas was in Touch with RENO, and offered and wanted them to go in , but deferred the decision to Reno who then asked the ATF/FBI and they said NO. At least tahts my understanding but I do know they were not in there until after, and by then the ATF had already "policed" what was left and removed any thing they could see that they thought would incriminate them. ------------------ AS soon as the Raid went sour , I asked RENO to get the ATF out of it , & let the FBI & or Rangers take over, I knew that if the ATF stayed there would be huge conflicts of interest. ( there was much bickering & infighting between them during the stand off too ) The FBI was to some extent coerced into letting the ATF have their way in a lot of went on that would likely not have happened had the ATF been pulled out, I'm sure it would not have been half the mess it is now. --------------- I have good relations with my local law here, and while they can't go public very easy, I can tell you to the man, they agree that when the ATF botched it the way they did they should have been pulled out, This is not to say we could or should walk away from it as RENO accused me of saying, but it was time for a change of the guard and under the circumstances keeping the ATF in there spelled certain doom. The FBI is catching more heat than their fair share, that's for sure, what is it with this ATF & why ? Are their ties to the CIA that strong ? Is this to be the new Gestapo, I'm convinced that some KKK types have turned in their sheets for ATF uniforms. Jim OVER 400 CS gas, military ferret rounds were fired into the building. I think they thought it might be a good way to use them up, as these devises became outlawed by the Geneva Convention some time ago, it's a war crime to even use them on the battle field in a war. -------------------- Jim