To: unclewest who wrote (28791 ) 9/6/1999 2:49:00 PM From: Dan3 Respond to of 93625
Re: the article goes on to talk about the boards in customer hands will be replaced The customers were distributors and OEMs, there were a few boards grey marketed in Akihabara and may have been some sold in Europe to end users, but anyone who has been following the AMD or Intel threads can tell you that there have been no motherboards available for mass retail sale - much to the consternation of AMD longs until the explanation surfaced. ==================================================== WWW.amdzone.com Some Insight Athlon Board Woes-Chris 'ruiner' Tom 5:57 p.m. CST Thanks to Burmese for letting me in on some info he got about motherboards. Here's the e-mail, edited for anonymity: Went down to *** to see what the availability situation is. They have one Athlon there in the store (550 MHz) and he said that he could get all the CPU's he wanted but wasn't going to bother until he had some motherboards to pair with them. His son now works at AMD and his job involves certifying motherboards. He said that MSI had submitted a motherboard to AMD for certification and then, after they ad got certified, they went back and fiddled with the design and then manufactured some 11,000 substandard boards and shipped them out. They were sent to Japan, the U.K., and the U.S., including Austin. They had removed a transistor, reduced the size of many of the capacitors, and edone some of the PCB etching. Right now, AMD itself is anually reworking most of those MSI boards just to get them out on the street. He also said that IBM had pushed back the start of its' Athlon sales two weeks while they dealt ith some motherboard problems of their own. Lastly, ASUS had developed a board but the design did not allow CPU speeds over 700 MHz. Now this is some great info that really clears up a lot of the motherboard problems. ============================================================= Meanwhile, Intel has put Toshiba and Panasonic in an unfortunate postion: ======================================================== Posted 06/09/99 4:42pm by Mike Magee Tosh, Panasonic recall Intel notebooks Toshiba and Panasonic have admitted there is a problem with notebooks fitted with mobile Pentium IIs and Celerons, and have recalled some stock. Earlier today, Intel UK confirmed it had slashed prices on some of the very same parts. According to information on the Intel Japanese site, the problem is connected with boot failures and packaging problems. There is information on Intel's Japanese site about the local difficulty, but several other sites have commented on the problem. If you go here, you will see Toshiba's statement. Panasonic also has a statement on the problem, which you can find here. But trusty PC Watch, which you can find here, has the definitive statement on the ongoing debacle. © ============================================================= But I'm not "giggling" over their misfortune. These are very complex systems, and I salute all of those engineers from Intel, AMD, Rambus, VIA, etc. who make these wonderful machines. I deal with them constantly at work, have filled my house with various PCs, and greatly enjoy them all. It's always sad when a problem arises. Dan