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To: James F. Hopkins who wrote (793)9/7/1999 1:21:00 PM
From: Les H  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1449
 
GOVERNMENT INFORMANT: DELTA FORCE INVOLVED IN WACO SHOOT-OUT

**World Exclusive**
**Must Credit DRUDGE REPORT**

WASHINGTON -- A former government officer has told investigators that members of the secret Army unit Delta Force said they participated in a shoot-out during the final assault on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

The witness, according to congressional sources, has already named names -- and will soon offer his account under oath!

The development caused panic and confusion at the top levels of the Justice Department and the FBI over the holiday weekend, leaving one top official scrambling for details.

FBI Director Freeh has demanded a full briefing, one agency source divulged late Monday.

Developing...

Meanwhile, congressional investigators are growing convinced that infrared film taken by an FBI surveillance aircraft at 9,000 feet on the final day of the Waco standoff does appear to show U.S. armed forces firing into the church compound.

"We are looking at the footage frame-by-frame... most of us have grown convinced that it does show snipers unloading from the rear of a tank," an investigator for the House Government Reform Committee told the DRUDGE REPORT.

Former FBI agent Richard Schwein, a supervisor at Waco, said charges of government gunfire were "absolutely false."

"False, absolutely false," he said on FOX NEWS SUNDAY. "No FBI agent fired any rounds from their weapons at Waco. There were no Delta Forces or special operations soldiers in an operational capacity at Waco.

"And everyone on our side, and the FBI's side, were in armored vehicles, so I don't know how you'd have films of anybody firing into the back of the building. No one was on foot, because we had no body armor that would stop the rounds they were firing."

WAIVER WONDER

Use of active military personnel against civilians without presidential decree is a violation of federal law.

Late last month White House spokesman Joe Lockhart first told reporters that he had no information on the waiver issue.

[August 26, 1999; Thursday]

Q Joe, why was the Army's Delta Force present on the scene the day that Waco burned?

MR. LOCKHART: I would refer you to the Justice Department. I don't have information on the Delta Force one way or the other.

Q The reason I asked is because since the law prohibits the military being used against civilians, I wondered whether the White House either, A, requested it or, B, President Clinton signed a waiver for it.

MR. LOCKHART: I don't have any information on that. Again, I'd refer you to Justice. I don't have any independent information on their role, if any.

The next day, when asked again about any possible waiver, Lockhart offered more details.

[August 27, 1999; Friday]

Q What did the White House know about the potential operational involvement of Delta Force in the Waco siege?

MR. LOCKHART: I think that's an issue that was dealt with at the time. And as we said yesterday, the president was not asked to sign a waiver, nor were we aware of any activity that would have required a waiver.

But, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned, Lockhart may still not have the full story.

One witness has told congressional investigators that in April of 1993, in response to a press inquiry, a White House spokesman stated privately that a "waiver is on the president's desk" that would have authorized military intervention.

A development that will cause battle during fresh rounds of congressional hearings.



To: James F. Hopkins who wrote (793)9/7/1999 1:45:00 PM
From: Les H  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1449
 
Koresh Met with BATF Agents Before Raid

Why did the BATF launch its bloody Feb. 28, 1993 assault on the Branch Davidian compound -- when, just nine days before, Koresh had openly welcomed two BATF agents onto his property and actually practiced target shooting with them?

That's the question posed by a document unearthed by Waco expert David Hardy, which reports the incident as part of the BATF's surveillance of Koresh and his followers.

On Hardy's Web site, Attorney General Janet Reno, congressional investigators, the White House and even the mainstream press can read the Treasury Department's own report about Koresh's incredible meeting with two BATF agents:

"Synopsis of Surveillance -- Feb. 19, 1993; FRIDAY

"On Feb. 19, 1993, Special Agents Robert Rodriguez and Jeffrey Brzozowski, in an undercover capacity, went to the Davidian Compound and met with Leader David Koresh and two other male members for the purpose of shooting the AR-15 rifles. When both agents arrived at the compound they were asked to enter the compound and wait for David Koresh.

"When David Koresh arrived, he examined the two AR-15 rifles very carefully. It was obvious that David Koresh had a lot of knowledge about the two firearms. After examining the firearms, Special Agents Rodriguez and Brzozowski followed David Koresh and two males through the inside of the compound towards the back. Special Agents Rodriguez and Brzozowski walked through the halls of the compound and through the kitchen.

"Numerous women were observed working in the kitchen and then observed numerous males working in the back at the shelter area. Before the shooting started, David Koresh went back inside the compound and brought some .223 caliber rounds for the agents to shoot.

"Special Agents Rodriguez and Brzozowski, along with David Koresh shot the AR-15 rifles. David Koresh displayed an ability to shoot the rifles very well. After shooting the rifles, Special Agent Rodriguez allowed David Koresh and two males to shoot Rodriguez's .38 super pistol. During this time, David Koresh returned to the compound and returned (with) two Sig-Sauer pistols. He returned with a model 226 and 220. David Koresh provided the 9mm and .45 caliber ammunition.

"David Koresh also stated that he owned a Ruger, 10-22 caliber rifle and other weapons. Mr. Koresh stated that he believed that every person had the right to own firearms and protect their homes.

"As Special Agents Rodriguez and Brzozowski left the compound a quick observation of the east side of the compound was made as requested by the SRT Leader, Ken Latimer. The side wall appeared to be approximately 16 to 18 feet high.

"No photographs were taken during this meeting."

An actual copy of the above document can be viewed at:

indirect.com



To: James F. Hopkins who wrote (793)9/7/1999 3:51:00 PM
From: Jeff Mizer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1449
 
>>Not believing there is a God requires faith. why not have hope ?<<

Feel free to use it.... its a favorite of mine --I am sure I heard something similar but I cannot remember who I plagiarized it from.

JM