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To: kash johal who wrote (71332)	9/8/1999 12:30:00 AM
From: Process Boy	Respond to of 1574446

kash - <I am basically taking umbrage at the crap on the PPC and Mots process and somehow that reflecting on how the K7 will scale. If AMD does deliver 700-750Mhz K7's in coming few months, they should be applauded for it.> I'm not saying it won't scale over time. What I do take exception with is that it'll be some huge magic jump that'll somehow leave Intel in the dust. Based on my experience and what I know about the processes involved, I don't belive AMD will have some huge raw MHz performance advantage. <Now we also know that Intels 0.18 with coppermine BOMBED. We also know that Leff on the transistors is now pushed well beyond 140nm to get to the 733Mhz speed grades.> IEEE paper on P858 lists physical gate sizes at 130nm. Nothing has changed since the beginning of the year when that was published. What's with the 140? Also, I believe you may be talking electrical leff. That's the whole name of the game. THe bigger the delta between the physical and the electrical (for the most part) the better. This is what device engineering is all about. As far as the process bombing, well, you can point to the delay. I can point to Barrett and Gelsinger saying it's fixed. I have posted it was a series of glitches, rather than some fundamental problem with the process or the design. That's all I can say. I will stand by my belief that Intel will be competitive in MHz with whatever AMD comes up with. PB