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To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (71362)9/8/1999 3:06:00 AM
From: Process Boy  Respond to of 1574006
 
TWY - <Somehow, this point got lost in some sort of design scalability discussion. If I was misleading - sorry.>

Yes it did, and for my part in that I am sorry. However, I do understand what you were and are trying to convey.

What I find interesting is that AMD (Al) may very well be doing pretty much the same thing, but from the other direction, i.e., .18ish gates and .25 BEOL, but still calling it .25, which makes more sense than what MOT is apparently attempting to put across, IMO.

PB



To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (71362)9/8/1999 4:23:00 PM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574006
 
TWY - Re: "The point I was trying to make was that if the Apple G4s are in .25um groundrules, then they are not in .18um groundrules. If I was an AMD long, I'd feel much more comfortable of bringing up .18um Copper BEOL in Dresden if MOTOROLA was all ready delivering it. They are not. Somehow, this point got lost in some sort of design scalability discussion. If I was misleading - sorry."

This an excellent point - which the AMDroids should consider.

Thanks for the clarification.

Paul



To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (71362)9/8/1999 7:40:00 PM
From: Yousef  Respond to of 1574006
 
WATSONYOUTH,

Re: "The point I was trying to make was that if the Apple G4s are in .25um groundrules,
then they are not in .18um groundrules."

Yes, Motorolo has "very, very low volume" in .18um Copper parts. AMD
believes that they bought a manufacturable process ... Instead, they
bought a "pig-in-a-poke" R&D process. Dresden should be very interesting
to watch. BTW, I have been consistently warning about the "immaturity"
of the Motorolo Copper process.

Make It So,
Yousef