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To: Neocon who wrote (1172)	9/8/1999 1:36:00 PM
From: MNI	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6418

I didn't think it was cruel to quote Nietzsche (that may pass a merely provocative), but to give the specific interpretation you chose. There are some twists and turns in discussion that have the main goal of stopping them off immediately. I think in this case the situation of Jews in concentration camps may have served as such a 'killer phrase'. Not fitting and proper, I would say. In your re-assessment of the American soldiers' motivation you have demonstrated how important an interplay between feelings of compassion and honor can be. Once you have installed the sense of solidarity, (how would you do that without empathy, btw?), compassion for your comrades may serve as well as a sense of honor as a cause for the obligation to endure hardship and risk death to maintain one's place under fire..... . You will not have forgotten that early reports of new wars often focus on cruelties of the heavily armed intruders against unarmed victims. That is not by chance, and it has not started with the modern age. The feeling of compassion is easier to trigger, and serves as an initiator to rouse anger and the perception of a need to defend one's Nation's honor. I do not think that either feeling is less open for manipulation than the other one. So neither concept, or both, are ethically unperilous. As I feel more inclined to the concept of a compassionate God than a honorable Uebermensch, my personal pendulum is already going back to compassion, after you had won me to the 50/50 position yesterday ... Regards MNI.