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To: Tom Clarke who wrote (1353)	9/8/1999 11:26:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 6418

It might not be secular based, but it is secularized. I don't think the services require you to be a believer. So I consider it "secular". There are some who argue that the USA is a Christian nation. I get all soggy and hard to light when I hear that, because more often than not it is a defense of the desire to put the church back into Gov't. Pfaah. While the Framers were largely Deists and stuff, and many of their ideals were formed in a Christian environment and adapted Protestant virtues, they were very careful to make the laws and core documents so that no special advantage applied to any stripe of believer. That is what freedom of religion is all about imo ... worship what you want how you want , but where that worship mandates proselytizing I draw the line. The school prayer fracas isn't about being able to pray in school - anybody can do that any time, alone or in groups, quietly ... it is about guerilla evangelism. And that is also a form of coercion to get folks to toe a line. Christianity uses the carrot and the stick - the stick (the coercive element) is the threat of damnation. That's a big ****ing stick you got there Dude. <g>