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To: fatheroz who wrote (832)	9/9/1999 5:02:00 PM
From: Cage Rattler	Respond to of 1449

Anyone wondering why Bill moved to pardoned the PR terrorists? Could it be another propaganda ploy to divert attention and split opposition forming around more serious issues? Rapid succession of reckless tactical maneuvers may herald the beginning of the end and finally exceed the American People's threshold for the consumption of stable-droppings. Let's hope so; I for one find the Clinton diet unpalatable.

To: fatheroz who wrote (832)	9/9/1999 5:35:00 PM
From: James F. Hopkins	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1449

Well taht may have had something to do with McVay's way of picking a target, (generally and just off the cuff) I see Bob Ricks roll in Waco as mostly being one doing Press Releases ( damage control ) but I don't know he had much to do with the actual command decisions. --------------- There was one agent who resigned during the standoff, and if say I had been an FBI agent who got sucked into that mess the ATF made and was convinced we were being wrongly used , resigning is about all anyone can expect. In doing that he gives a message without saying anything, and even then he has to be concerned about future repercussion. I don't expect FBI agents to come forward with information ever , it's the justice departments job to dig out the truth. However it looks like to me the Justice Dept has been more interested in hiding the truth than in looking for it. I feel I've meet some fairly decent FBI agents in my life, even most of the ATF agents I personal meet ( some years ago ) were regular people . Things do seem to have changed, and now the ATF is flooded with military types and the quality of people they get is nothing like the quality the FBI gets. ------------------- Beyond all that the Delta Force should not have in any way been involved in this, and I smell CIA control, with the ATF getting in bed with them, but that's hard to prove. Still the foot prints are there, and I question if the FBI is not getting a lot of the heat that should be more focused on the CIA/ATF ? Some powers that be seem to be doing all they can to create a loop hole in the law that is supposed to keep the military out of Domestic law enforcement. The separation of powers our founders vision wasn't explicate enough to cover this huge Federal Police Force we have developed, things seem to have gotten out of control and Waco seems to be a profound symptom of something gone seriously wrong. Jim