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To: Process Boy who wrote (71550)9/9/1999 8:15:00 PM
From: Charles R  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573988
 
PB,

<I don't know what the long term holds, but after some checking with folks that I trust, aspirations for 64 bit extensions for x86 at this time are ahead of themselves. >

I wonder if you have an unbiased observer here or an IA64 fan or someone who was part of the team that recommended that Intel not do 64-bit x86!

<PPro is still doing EXTREMELY well Chuck! As close as I believe K7 and Coppermine will be in real world performance, I am not embarrassed that Intel got so much life out of a very efficient core!!! >

I will give it you that PPro core is being pushed very aggressively - beyond what people thought was possible. I will credit that to - necessity is the mother of invention"

<In the interim Coppermine will still be a very compelling solution, >

I am sure if you give enough oomph to 486, it could have done reasonably with Pentium. What does that prove, I am not sure. You are comparing your competitors 0.25 (yes there is some 0.18 in there) chip with external cache to your 0.18 micron chip with built-in core and from the looks of it so far it appears that you will be barely keeping parity on MHz.

<Pretty good ROI on a very successful core, don't you think? >

Absolutely! And Intel will continue to make a lot more money on the core. And, some more if Wilamette doesn't make for 2000.

<, AMD NEEDED THE K7 DESPERATELY! And it just pulls them close. It is not a blow away product, IMHO. >

Replace AMD and K7 with Intel and Wilamette and the story wouldn't change!

<Big die, manufacturing questions >

Chalk that up to the usual product curve. I am sure you are aware how big Wilamette will look on 0.18!

Chuck



To: Process Boy who wrote (71550)9/9/1999 8:43:00 PM
From: Cirruslvr  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573988
 
PB - RE: "Face it, AMD NEEDED THE K7 DESPERATELY! And it just pulls them close. It is not a blow away product, IMHO. The design may have some compelling attributes, but overall performance against Coppermine will be comparable."

Intel NEEDS Cuontimemine DESPERATELY! And it just pulls them close. It is not a blow away product, in EVERYONE's opinion. The design still has life in it, but overall performance against Athlon will be comparable at best.