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To: Bald Eagle who wrote (34681)	9/10/1999 1:08:00 PM
From: Sam LBI nj	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 44908

Question for you...Since Me and My group of kids were the only ones ever to sell cards to the public and we have a pretty good Idea who and what age the buyers of those cards are, Wouldnt you think the company would have been interested in that information?....Nobody there could care less and we were never even asked who was buying the cards.... In LL deal,What age groups are getting in to this and do they sell the cards and collect the money or are the cards sold and the money sent in before the cards are distributed? If someone can answer the above question I will have a pretty good idea of wheather or not the LL deal will work.... Sam

To: Bald Eagle who wrote (34681)	9/10/1999 2:11:00 PM
From: johngmack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 44908

Baldy, <<Can anyone give me ONE good reason why the Lifetime Learning deal will be any better than....>> This is a good question, but it's possible the answer is already available. Sam, if you are out there, I wonder if you would share your opinion on the following: Please open the www.mycard.com site. This is LL's website for the music card fundraising. (I'm pretty sure this site was posted a few months ago on this thread.) On the home page, select "Form Downloads". View and/or print the documents that are available to the participating schools. Here is where I value your opinion. How do these support materials compare to what you had to work with on the Babe Ruth program? In your opinion, is this the SOS or a better, more informative package for the fundraisers? <<Since Me and My group of kids were the only ones ever to sell cards to the public and we have a pretty good Idea who and what age the buyers of those cards are, Wouldnt you think the company would have been interested in that information?>> This is another great question. If TSIG is in it for the long haul, the answer is a definite yes. However, I have yet to see anyone's name at TSIG associated with the title Marketing Manager. Since the company is hiring, and shares have already been authorized and set aside for new employee incentive purposes, that position may be filled in the near future. Sam, there still may be an opportunity to for TSIG to learn from you! Keep the faith my friend. John

To: Bald Eagle who wrote (34681)	9/10/1999 9:39:00 PM
From: Suzanne Newsome	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 44908

<<Can anyone give me ONE good reason why the Lifetime Learning deal will be any better than the dismal failure that the much hyped at the time Babe Ruth deal has turned out to be? After all, it's basically the same kind of deal. Kids selling cards.>> Baldy, I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and assume this is a sincere question. TSIG signed the Babe Ruth deal a short period of time before the BR fundraising began. TSIG really did not have enough time to do what it needed to do in preparation. Babe Ruth is a very de-centralized organization which is to say fundraising decisions are made on the local level. Babe Ruth was unable to provide TSIG with a list of the local coaches/league presidents. TSIG's only point of contact was the web site. I suspect that TSIG was hampered by lack of funds. What would be different about the 2000 campaign is a) sufficient lead time; b) TSIG has a list of local people to contact; c) TSIG should have the funds to do what is necessary to support the deal; d) hopefully TSIG will have a successful track record with LL to help sell the concept; e) TSIG will have learned some things from their association with LL and from the 1999 experience with BR. Regards, Suzanne