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To: Zoltan! who wrote (28172)9/11/1999 3:08:00 PM
From: Bindusagar Reddy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 77398
 
ZOltan, bottomline is CISCO thinks it is a TELCOM caliber player. It is pretending to be one. It is convincing the wall street as well, thanks to salesman Chambers. Reality they are not even close to building a fault proof 7/24 network. Here is some real info. They made all the noise about sprint ION with big publicized deal. The real products are coming from Nortel. Second is Telia and the list goes on. You can sell the junk to enterprise by taking them to parties. That kind of sales job is not going to work with Telecoms. They need real products, not smoke and mirrors and wannabe products.

These Failure shows you that CISCO's SALESMAN CHAMBERS can only go so far to the announcements but no delivery. It is a different game in TELCO segment. He might blow smoke with enterprise customers but you need to deliver products for Telecoms that are reliable. DItto with ION from SPRINT..
Convergence Reality: Telia's Trials -- Cisco
Loses An
Integrated Network Contract. What Went
Wrong?
SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 04, 1999 12:40 AM
- CMP Media

Sep. 03, 1999 (LTH - CMP via COMTEX) --
Building an integrated, multiservice network is easier
said than done. Just ask frustrated executives at Telia
AB (Stockholm), which last month scrapped a hard-won and highly publicized contract with Cisco Systems Inc. San Jose, Calif.) for equipment and services.

Despite considerable effort, Cisco has not been able to
supply a multiservice asynchronous transfer mode(ATM) and Internet protocol (IP) network to Telia as specified in a contract signed in February. Telia had hoped to deploy its integrated network by January
2000. Instead, Telia is going back to the drawing board, forgoing the new network to simply upgrade its X.25/frame relay network with equipment supplied by Nortel Networks Inc., in order to meet increasing traffic demands, says Marianne Nivert, the executive
in charge of Telia Network.




To: Zoltan! who wrote (28172)9/11/1999 6:41:00 PM
From: Uncle Frank  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 77398
 
Hi, Zoltan. It's amusing to seem some of the LU crowd over here trying to put a positive spin on the WCOM disaster. Imo and that of the IT professionals I've spoken to, LU has inflicted permanent damage on its reputation. What IT manager wants to take the chance that Lucent will point the finger at them?

Frank



To: Zoltan! who wrote (28172)9/11/1999 8:02:00 PM
From: Techplayer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 77398
 
Zoltan, Even you are aware that this was not a RAS problem with WCOM. brian



To: Zoltan! who wrote (28172)9/12/1999 2:40:00 AM
From: Gerald Walls  Respond to of 77398
 
Old news? Gee, AT&T's was ancient history then.

Fossilized.