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To: Bilow who wrote (29380)9/12/1999 9:12:00 PM
From: Dan3  Respond to of 93625
 
Re: I am unable to understand your calculations....

ARGHH! You are absolutely right. I was reprising some numbers I had put up about a month and a half ago where, for the sake of being conservative, I had assumed a 99% cache hit rate or 1 in 100. It was pretty boneheaded to move to 95% and not go to 1 in 20. I'm sorry for any confusion. Everyone started using the 95% number so I went with it without adjusting the rest of the calculation.

95% is, of course, much worse for rambus, I was trying to give Rambus the benefit of the doubt.

A month and a half ago, I was trying to raise the issue of performance effects poor latency would have by pointing out that number of instruction retirements that would be missed while a 1 gigahertz CPU waited after a cache miss. I used the very conservative hit rate of 99% to show that even under those circumstances that impact would be serious.

I am sitting here trying to finish a program, and checking on the lists every so often, and popping off messages in a rush. Still no excuse for that one.

Red-Faced,

Dan



To: Bilow who wrote (29380)9/12/1999 11:22:00 PM
From: Dan3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93625
 
Re: Latency Impact

An issue that I've tried to get discussed on the thread is rambus vs. Virtual Channel DRAM. VC is very similar to SDRAM but uses static registers to provide better latency and overcome some of the inefficiencies of the SDRAM bus. It is also suitable for either standard or DDR.

I think that the impact of reducing latency will be far greater than the benefit of streaming data that is provided by rambus's on chip interleave of banks.

VC is also no royalty, only 3% more die area, and uses existing testers, etc. I think that this is why AMD decided to go with VC and DDR instead of rambus. VIA, ALI, and SIS are all supporting Virchual Channel in their chipsets that are sampling now for Q4 99 release.

I'd be very interested in your opinion of Virtual Channel.

Dan

some benchmarks:
necel.com
necel.com

Datasheet:
necel.com